M63
un-australian
October 09 2008
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RHP User
17 years ago
So what are you saying? That my son, ex husband, grandfathers and uncles are/were all misguided to be proud of the flag they serve/served under?? I really don't like political discussions, but that British flag is the reason we're here. The Brits, right or wrong, settled Australia. I'm deeply offended. I do hope you never show your face at anything that celebrates Australia since you're so ashamed of our flag. Viking. (also venting)
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RHP User
17 years ago
You have misread LRE's comment.. or i misundertood your point.. LRE is saying that he is offended by the government's saying that our national icon, the Aussie flag, one with the union jack within, is "un-Australian" England wanted a strong foothold in south east asia, for naval domination of all seas. The dutch saw Western Australia first, but never bothered with it, for there is no money in it. The French claimed it and settled in Esperance, but never re-inforced it, for they were too busy conquering Europe under the leadership of Napoleon. The English, did everything they can.. and thus made Australia as it is today. I am proud of my ancestral linage, regardless of what form of history they have. I too, is proud of my Irish linage, and the scots,,.. and of the French. I too is proud to be Australia, as they warmly shown us how proud we should be back in the 80's. I will fly the true colours, even if they change the flag.. For I am a True Australian.. and they.. are nothing more than a fusspot immigrants...
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RHP User
17 years ago
I have always been of the understanding , that our flag has in fact always been blue , and the red version has a maritime significence . ~~~Horrible~~~ * If all you see in our flag is colour and shapes ,, then i ask , who is Dim ??
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RHP User
17 years ago
Well said viking i was born in the uk but love my country australia and its flag and to me is the best flag in the world!!! So i say if you dont like the aussie flag piss off and fly whatever flag you wantin your own back yard and leave the flag alone!!
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RHP User
17 years ago
Oh FFS...I'm with you on this one Viking And he goes on abt tit for tat?? Some people just analyse things way to far down to the nitty gritty's dont they, and this person is exceptionally good at it. Who gives a rats abt the exact colour. And calling the Union Jack a "Pommy Rag" is just plain disrespectful, whether you like the people from that part of the world or not. If the Australian Flag is offensive to anyone, then why dont they piss off and live somewhere else.
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RHP User
17 years ago
be proud of the country that it represents. "be proud of the flag".. what are you? a yank? you carry on putting the flag before the country. but i'll always put austrailia first. because despite some of the dopey things it does, i do really love this place and i want a flag that is not un-australian. and actualy, it's totaly warping logic to say we are here because of the poms. somone would be here, maybe us, maybe not. and while my heratage is european (and 5 generations old) i'm certainly only vaugly english. like all the red neck stickers say "if you don't love it leave". so if you love the Jack so much. go and live in engleand. and if you want a flag the trepresents the 1st AIF it probaly is not this one. as i said, it was the red ensign. not the blue one. and don't worry.. because i usualy stay away from people that want to harrase me, i'll give meets that you are at a wide berth. LRE (showing he can chooses to take offence at impersonal views too)
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RHP User
17 years ago
and apart from realising i missread the bottom bit of VB's post, a thought crossed my mind. why do people start banging on about wars when ever we discuss the flag? and also. i'd be very suprized if our fathers and mothers, grand or otherwise were not missguided about somthing or other. just like we are. so why be pissed about it. it's just how they rolled. LRE (hugging footy, meat pies, kangeroos and holden cars)
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RHP User
17 years ago
From what I've heard the country sounded more 'settled' before the British, or any other 'conquering' parties arrived. Not that I'm totally against the turmoil of modern culture.....
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RHP User
17 years ago
Well we are poms and emigrated here in 93.We came here because oz was and still is one of the luckiest countries in the world,we have never witnessed the levels of pride and commitment by australians to a country and its beliefs,freedom and way of life anywhere.This was the main attraction for us.So to treat the australian flag with contempt itself is un australian,it signifies what we are today and the sacrifices that were made to make us what we are today.We have taken our oz citizenship and our children were born here and we are all proud to be australian.Whether you like it or not you should remember and be grateful to whoever settled oz and made it what it is today for you!!!!!!!We are fortunate captain cook was at the helm and not some anarchic, tree hugging lefty freedom fighter incabable of making the decisions needed to build a nation.You seem to be a little confused over the significance of the red and blue ensign ,do some more research ,the red ensign was flown by the merchant navy............and your point? brenbob68
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RHP User
17 years ago
I bang on about stuff like that for the reasons given. The armed forces have a great influence in my family. I am the mother of a soldier. I was the wife of a soldier. The men and women who defend us are in my thoughts on a daily basis. As are the other services without which we would be in a sad state of affairs. And they ALL serve under one flag. I make no apology for my support. Viking P.S. Hagar, I believe you are right. Though I am quite open to being corrected.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Getting back on topic I agree with LRE that the quality of news reporting is infantile. There is no transfer of information at all. It's all about eliciting an emotional response in the audience. Not balanced argument. But I suppose it's our own fault if we are happy to swap information for entertainment. With regard to the symbols of Australia. Being Australian is about an attitude. Anybody who has lived overseas will understand that we are fundamentally different from other people because of our attitude to living. No flag or anthem represents this accurately to my mind, but in the end it doesn’t matter. After all what are the purposes of these emblems? We as Australians do not need them to know who we are and what we represent. We already know who we are. So these emblems are for other people to know us. But as I said these emblems do not describe us and really as Australians we don’t care what other people think any way. We have always expected to be judged by our actions. This is one of the attributes of being Australian. So in my mind this discussion is so much a waste of effort. I think Paul Hogan put it well when asked about our service men/women fighting for the flag. He said that he thought that Australians didn’t fight for the flag, they fought for their mates. I believe no truer words have been said. While I would love for our emblems to be more representative of what it truly means to be Australian. I would be equally Australian if the flag was a bar towel and the anthem was a dirty limerick. And I am pretty sure most Australians would agree. Ed
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RHP User
17 years ago
You know I remember a time when RHP forum pages were all about the sex. Call me old fashioned :)
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RHP User
17 years ago
Hey, personally, I agree that the flad is not ours. Sorry. I am not un-Australian and I love this country for all its good and bad. But the truth is, it is a flag that tells us we are run by an Empire that is around the other side of the world. I don't bag England either. Well, except around ashes time... Oh, and when we beat them at FOOTBALL (ie, soccer) 3-1 Go you Aussies :P I also agree when LRE says that any time the flag is brought up people do bang on about war. Well, I have news for you. War is not the soul (not the spelling) of Australia. Neither is the flag. Australia is a country that could use a good does of anti nationalism. By that, I mean the dickheads who get out there and tell everyone that if you are not WASP then you should piss off. Morons. Hows that song go? I am, you are, we are all Australians? Well, start respecting the people instead of a flag (and that goes for the rest of the world to). When we can be as proud of the people in a country (ALL THE PEOPLE) them maybe we can start to think about being proud of a flag. And LRE... Channel seven is the DEVIL when it comes to news... Watch sbs.. Best news in the country. Peace out fellow mungbeans.
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RHP User
17 years ago
FFS people accept the fact that in Australia if it wasn’t for the English we would all be speaking a foreign language and worshiping a weird god. The English settle Australia even if it was populated by POMS (prisoners of Mother England). We follow the Westminster parliamentary system. The southern cross was always used as a navigational point of reference to find our land and the blue…just take a look outside some day at our sky’s, is this not three good reasons for our flag to look the way it is. The flag is fine the way it is. Ps. I am proud of my Scottish heritage and know what the English have done to us for centuries. But many years ago became an Australia citizen and in my back yard fly many flags, The Saltire, The Lion Rampant and the Australian. They all have special meanings to me and are flown on certain days. VB.. i'm with you all the way Mr Onlyone
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RHP User
17 years ago
the flag was chosen in a competition run duing fedoration. the entrants were tile that there design should include the jack to be accepted. in those days blue was chosen strictly for government use so red was the flag everybody else used. including some parts of the army in WW 1. blue became more accepted after the first world war. we actualy did not really have an official falg till the menzies govt passed the flag act in 1953. LRE (with his history cap on)
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RHP User
17 years ago
well said bad edd. LRE (off looking for a good bar towel)
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RHP User
17 years ago
7 News is the top rating news in Perth along with Trash Tonight. The commercial news services are designed to be more entertainment than information and simplify things for its viewers especially TVW 7. For as long as Rick and Sue bring in the ratings the news will be dumbed down. Those who do want to know whats going on should watch ABC News and listen to 720 6WF and even 6PR. SBS was good when Mary Kostakidis and George Donikian read the news.
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ocean_man
17 years ago
LRE With an attitude like yours, it must be difficult to find people who don't want to harrass you!
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RHP User
17 years ago
I remember when I posted a thread about looking up at the sky. I was told I was an idiot, how did this thread get through, wot did this have to do with sex, etc. My friends, I love this country. I have been to many other countries but there is no place like home. Every year on the 26th Jan I proudly pull out my Aussie flag and fly the sukka, proud as punch for all to see. When I'm not at home I let them all know its Austarlia day and time for celebration. Until we change the flag I will respect what we recognise as our banner, and proudly fly it it for all to see.
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RHP User
17 years ago
well done on the red and blue flags.............but this irritates you why?is the red more "australian" to you,and red is the right colour for what reason exactly?
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RHP User
17 years ago
oh i respect the flag.. i just want one that's austrailan.. or rather not "un-australian". i posted in a few other forums and people called out to burn it.. i would never do that. but i would like a true australian flag. for all the people who love australia. not england. and for those who question my associative abilities? i'd frather have a beer with a few good thinkers than look popular in pub full of clowns. LRE (is now thirsty)
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RHP User
17 years ago
Gee thanks for the history lesson…LRE Like we don’t all know how the flag came about, if you couldn’t work it out I was explaining that what is on our flag actually could represent the land in which we live. Mr onlyone
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RHP User
17 years ago
Whats wrong with the Union Jack? Here's the symbolism of the Current Australian Flag,as I see it: The Union Jack represents the United kingdoms of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and may other bits and pieces. Thus Symbolizes that the settlers were a group of these cultures. It also represent this land was part of the Great British Empire, which holds the world record of owning half of the world for lil over 200 years. It wasn't until AFTER the federation of this Country, we have this flag. Before we are recognized under the Union Jack flag. For Back then Australia was PART of Great Britain, not another country. The blue background represents the seas surrounding this great southern land. It also, to me, represents the coolnes, the peacefullness.. etc etc The Southern Cross, is obvious. Although many nations along the southern Hemisphere relies on this group of stars for navigation. We just happened to adopt it for our flag. As well as New Zealand, THey TOO have this.. THe Big star beneath the Union Jack, represents the number of states and territories. Its like our own version of the US Stars on their flag.. As a whole, it represents us. It represnts our Culture. It Represents "The great aussie frendship to those that needs it" And the colours of Blue, Red and White.. is perfect. I wouldnt dare change a bit of it. And if anyone does.. i'd slap them hard :P God save our queen! oh btw.. asking to change our flag top more Australian, is asking us to remove an Australian flag for something that is NOT Australian.. yanno?
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Sexy_sofie
17 years ago
does anyone actually wanna catch up for some sex tonight ????
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RHP User
17 years ago
Only those who have served or represented our country (or the loved ones of those who have), or in fact have even shed their blood in the defence of this beautiful country and the freedom it represents, be allowed to have the right to knock the flag that represented it at the time? I dare you to walk into an RSL on ANZAC day and have a crack at the flag. I'm pretty sure there will be a few other cracks in response. BTW - I qualify to knock the flag, and I do support a republic and possibly a new flag, but we should never de-value the sacrifices paid, regardless of what symbol was representing those making the sacrifice at the time. Nice one LRE, your always good at provoking a hot debate LOL
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RHP User
17 years ago
With great interest I have been reading this post. I guess I am going to further ignite the flames of the fire, but i have a few points to add. Remember the Cronulla Riots. Pissed people draping themselves with the aussie flag and telling people that if they didn't like our country and it's laws, then to F**K off... and then totally negating the laws of our country by taking the law and shoving it up someone's bum while bashing the living crap out of who may or may not have been totally innocent people of an ethnic origin. "Un Australian" is a term that people bandy about when someone disagrees with the way we do things in this country. I disagree with the fact that our ancestors, the British, came to this country and termed it Terra Nullus and clamined of for their own, bringing disease and inforced ways of living that contradicted completely the people who had been living in this country and understood the nature of living in harmony with the Australian environment. I think it's "Un-Australian" that it took so long for a government to apologize for the atrocities perpetrated against our indigenous brothers and sister.... but we finally have said "sorry", right. So everything is now Australian, and those whingers who keep on going on about compensation and loss of family should just shut up. I think it's "Un Australian" that we have so many young people in this country who cannot read, write or think without depending on the American viewpoint, let alone simply read or write and think for themselves... I think it's "Un Australian" that we should have so many of our youth with a feeling of hopelessness and despair, growing up before their time because they have to take care of themselves while their parents are out working just to keep them with a roof over their head and food on the table, not to mention all the latest techno gadgets and must haves advertised on the huge plasma screen tv. I feel it's "Un Australian" that WE no longer have common courtesy and manners, that we follow america's lead in everything from how we dress to how we talk and relate to each other. I think it's "Un Australian" that we are even having what can be termed as an argument on this subject, because, by rights, we are supposed to be allowed to express our views without being called "Un Australian", even if we feel that someone else's view is wrong. Aren't we supposed to be allowed to express our thoughts and feelings without fear of being called "Un Australian" My grandfather and biological sperm donor fought in wars as well. Is it "Un ustralian on me to want to have the men and women of our forces currently serving back home safe and sound because I don't feel that they should be there any longer. I am "Un Australian" because of that? I have Aboriginal, chinese, french, german, english and irish in my bloodline. What does that make me: A Mongrel. If it does, I would rather be a mongrel and have the guts and decency to do right by others and have tolerance that bash the crap out of someone who didn't look like me, wipe their bums different to me or has as skin colour that doesnt match mine. Australian is what we make it mean. I don't want to be a drunk raving pisshead who fights with strangers and walks around with a VB in one hand and a rifle in the other. So if I'm Un Australian...so be it
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RHP User
17 years ago
Morgan... I vote, I pay tax... I love this country... The most patriotic thing I can do is to disagree with it when I feel it deserves it. That is what evolution of ideas is... To learn from that that we are wrong about... Now... As to your assertion that only those who have served in a battle or war zone can knock the flag... Sorry... That is not why I served my country in a country that I didn't want to be in... I support that every person no matter what cred, what job, what class, who calls this place home and loves it can knock it... I didn't serve my country so that I could be the moral elite. I served my country because I believe in its values... And that was my original point when agreeing with LRE... I believe we are more than a flag... we are a people.
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RHP User
17 years ago
*standing ovation* Hear Hear *clap clap* Well spoken... *clap cheer* even if you did use my initals to name a shit beer... ~~ That's one mighty big soapbox, custom job is it?? Who's your builder?? Can I have his number??~~ With respect, Viking
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RHP User
17 years ago
it still has the jack in the corner and that represents such a minor part of what australia is... i want an australina flag!! that represents australia!! it should have bloody green and gold on it for starters.. the aus flag you see on the bumper of so many cars around perth is pretty good, but maybe that's not the one? and no i don't want to see the current flag trashed or burned.. i would like it respectfuly laid to rest. it's old and tired and it never realy fitted anyway. we have not been an english collony for ages. anyway all england ever did for australia is dump people here, charge cripiling tarifs and drag our army off to europe when they were needed here. australian soldiers spilled more blood than any other nation (per head) in some parts of the western front of world war one, and i still feel pretty bitter about that. thank you blighty... LRE (whos birthday is 25th april, feel free to send a card) oh.. and have a hug pheonix. you're a real aussie.
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RHP User
17 years ago
If you choose to spend your time with a few deep thinkers , might i suggest you take a friend to combat loneliness ? "OH" and what does Dim mean ??? Miss_Phoenix !!!,,. Years of pack rape of Australian girls as a weekend sport in the Cronulla region ,, IS UN- Australian TOO !!! "SO"........How bout soma you fukkas cry me a fukkin river ??? ..If some people dont like Australia , or our flag , or the way we go about things,, Then ill be kind enough to give you a lift to the airport. ~~~Horrible~~~
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RHP User
17 years ago
Ms_Pheonix, You're a feisty woman. Good to see. Intelligent and articulate as well. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Cheers and more cheers Wildly applauding
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RHP User
17 years ago
There are a number of immigrants who should never have made it too our shores. They've disruptively squatted in the habitat of our native locals. They have devoured all that was unique before them, destroying everything like never before. They have spread wide and far, plundering as they go. Many of the original inhabitants are now displaced from house and home and becoming extinct. I'm talking about the impact of the cane toads, the rabbits, the foxes and the feral cats. They have either destroyed the native habitat or destroyed the native species. All being introduced by humans, who in the name of progress have rendered much of our rural land salty and barren, whilst whittling away at our glorious rain forests for export as wood chips. Everything has consequences, and sadly the powers that be do not take heed until it is blatantly obvious, and even then they tend to remain in denial. A lot of this has to do with the need for awareness and wisdom. Foremost respecting the natural order of things... but sadly this is something that people will alway differ. In my mind, the ideal is is an homogenous coexistence for the species and environment to be as one. This also relates to matters of culture. Like hybrid vigor brings with it great benefits, new and different things also enrich our life through ideas, skills, cuisine, music and art. When the best of all are intelligently integrated, our whole being is enriched. Too often bigotry, narrow mindedness and a refusal to adapt, cause friction... whether that be centred on religious ideas, racism or simple stupidity. The Cronulla Riots brought a lot of this to a head. One alienated group, who did not respect the women of another, and who wished to enforce their imported values where they were not welcome... in turn created a backlash reaction, which ultimately let loose a lawless retaliation. There was great ugliness on both sides. Integration is essential, too often the bleeding hearts capitulate through mindless so called 'political correctness'. Radical people who are not willing to embrace Australian values, should not be brought here in the first place. We should not import elements which are not suited to our environment, whether that be unsuitable species such as the cane toad, or intolerant people who think than a local girl in a bikini is an invitation to rape, just because they demand their women folk to hide from view. Our country is much better for the great diversity of people who have settled. We are much more cosmopolitan than our previously predominantly British past, when England was referred to as the mother country. Our slavish devotion to British royalty has dissipated. Education, modern communications and the media make us much more informed than the dark aged when only the privileged and the clergy could read and write. We are no longer constrained by the old British class system, and a fair go, mateship and "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oui Oui Oui" is now our mantra.
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RHP User
17 years ago
In the end its up to you how you define yourself as an Australian I think embodying a flag with your belief is fine but remember its a material object and doesn't define you unless you let it please realize there is more to being Australian than a bloody flag and yes I agree free to air can't report to save themselves but then if we believed everything we saw on TV we'd be as stupid as those who report it. I think these days we should be more critical of where the information is coming from and what drives those who report it
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RHP User
17 years ago
how about we fly a blue shearers singlet coved with meat pie to reprecent our states,a pair of thongs and stubbie shorts with cricky written across the ass now thats australian we are one but we are many and from all the lands on earth we come each to there own.i dont give a crap what flag we have but have respect for those that fought and died for us under the flag we have.must have a sad life if you are so worried about the flag next thing you know you will want the anthem changed to true blue god get a life
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RHP User
17 years ago
and from all the lands on earth we come. I am , your are , we are Australian.
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RHP User
17 years ago
I think you need some better drugs than what you are on. Best you change your psychiatrist and medication. Maybe even a straight jacket so u cant type so much crap. Honestly...where do u find the time to write so much. Get a life ffs
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RHP User
17 years ago
Fortunately not everyone suffers from attention deficit disorder, tendonitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, or wanker's wrist ailment. Copious quantities of ejaculate is not the only grey matter we exercise or entertain, and I'm sure many here are capable of experiencing a natural high too. Thankfully things can resonate in the mind without the assistance of a vibrating dildo. Though if I ever get tongue tired through excessive cunnilingus or your batteries are flat, I'm willing to give the keyboard a rest and let my fingers do the talking. Either that or LRE may let you stoke his boiler ;)
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RHP User
17 years ago
In hindsight, particularly after just reading your "Limited Playtime" post under the Couples' Corner topic 'Kids and Play', my previous comments were a tad ill informed, when looking at matters from your perspective. Obviously a very busy lady, so my humble commiserations on your predicament.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Some comments on the news reporting process, and factors that impact upon its accuracy... Mission Statement of a commercial TV station: 1) Make money 2) Entertain 3) Educate as an after thought... Once you're got the license and infrastructure to broadcast, it's relatively easy to disseminate either information or misinformation... as long as it gets eyeballs glued to screens as measured by the rating system. How often have you read an article or viewed a story in which you have intimate knowledge, to only find its reporting errors of fact? They get away with it because few viewers possess this intimate knowledge. Having worked in a newsroom, I've had ample opportunity to witness how the day's so called news is gathered. There's considerable reliance on monitoring of other sources, rather than using skill and initiative to break new ground. Read the Chief of Staff's job allocations, then if time permits, bone up on your allocated subjects by reading the newspapers, listen to the ABC, check the internet, read the official press releases or flick through any relevant government reports, scan the police radio frequencies, check the incoming press service cables. In reality there's not much time allocated to earth breaking new material that requires in-depth research or heavy analysis. Grab a token academic for a sound bite giving an expert view in a couple of sentences. If you can't sum the subject up in twenty seconds, then viewers may lose interest. On the assumption that the public has difficulty absorbing news, reinforce the message by the use of graphics and subtitles. Tell then about it, show it happening, illustrate it graphically and emphasize the key points and people with superimposed captions. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. Reality may become more obvious if the story warrants a follow-up, with denials, counter denials and even better if it should destroy a reputation, cause a minister of the crown to resign, result in an arrest, or if a Royal Commission should eventuate. An on-air reporter needs good looks, a sense of dress style, a reasonable speaking voice, a strong ego, and a skill for making the shit they talk believable. No wonder so many of them enter politics. Good social skills are an asset, particularly an ability to support the local bar. A half hour commercial TV news bulletin only needs 10 minutes of news content, of which some of this will be sourced interstate or overseas. The rest of the bulletin is taken up with commercials, sport and weather.
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RHP User
17 years ago
it's been really interesing reading all the resoponces on this forum. thanks to all of you for the input. LRE (now a little wiser, again)
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RHP User
17 years ago
Mate, the aussie flag as it is now shows where we came from and who founded us, the poms, where we are now with the nice large star representing the states and where we are headed the stars, being the southern cross. If it wasn't for the Poms we would all be speaking French and eating frogs legs and more than likely arrogant turds. Good old La Perouse sailed into Botany Bay several days after from my understanding Captain Cook. Leave the Flag alone it looks great and Im proud to stand underneath it no matter what flag is in the corner. Some people are just never happy.
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sexytiger
17 years ago
go racist australia!!! well done and you dont even know it. bigots.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Please explain?????
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RHP User
17 years ago
Australians are one of the most Racist society in the world,next to France.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Psst! Eunuch! Come in close.... were u meaning oi oi oi or yes yes yes or we we we. Your Aussie went French hehehehehe and ya got me excited. Shhhh!....quick while every one is googling flags and not looking... follow me down the corridor and I will give you a french lesson. *suspects VNG is listening and not googling btw* sneaks off
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bondage_reality
17 years ago
I was always of the impression that a red flag was for the King and a blue one for the Queen. So naturally when the Queen dies and a King takes over all the flags get changed
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RHP User
17 years ago
Ooh-la-la! How lovely to see my most favourite down-under lollipop-loving lass come to the surface. One must come up for air sometimes you know. Ah! The timeless and passionate gesture of romantic affection, the French kiss, which is so captivating that one must not forget to breathe. Believe it or not, gasping and turning blue is not romantic. It is thought that at one time INXS lost it's voice through something closely akin. Psst! Wanna see some dirty books and pictures? Who else but the French would have an official hoard of erotica and pornography assembled by the Bibliothque Nationale, which has a statutory duty to collect every book published in France. If ever there was a good reason for being a student, then this is one, as only bona fide academic researchers are allowed access to the collection. I do believe that Miss Honey also has a collection worthy of great research, in the form of garment erotica resulting from many dedicated hours of artistic needlework, which most entertainingly and enticingly enhances the lovely frames of many a local madame or mademoiselle. On the subject of students... I would love to read Miss Honey's latest school report... or should that read minute keeping of her most naughty misdemeanors?
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RHP User
17 years ago
I noted two posts that state Australia is a racist society. While I don't wish to inflame the discussion I believe that nothing could be further from the truth. Certainly in current society your race is of little consequence. People will always be suspect of other people that are different. This is human nature. But on a one to one basis Australians will all ways give the other bloke a go. I have found Europeans (in Europe) to be the most xenophobic people I have encountered. Their xenophobia goes beyond race, it applies to people who come from different parts of the same country. To this day northern Italians still distrust and actively discriminate against southern Italians, not to mention people who go out and kill each other for race, religion or vendetta, and it goes on. So in Australia Serbs and Croats live next to each other. Muslims and Jews don't kill each other. Whilst there is no doubt that individuals perpetrate acts of racism. And we all have been guilty of judging some one solely by their race or by the fact that they are not the same, Australia is not a racist society. If you care to do an experiment. Think of your friends and acquaintances. Add up how many races and nationalities they represent. More than 2, may be 5, or more. What about your children’s friends and play mates. And then think, did it make any difference to how you treated these people. If it did do you feel guilty about that. There is your answer. What did you cook for dinner last night or this week. I would be surprised if it didn’t include at least one dish from another nationality than your inherited one or for many ones. Note that I asked about what you cooked, not what you eat. As eating out while a good sign, to cook means you have to make the effort to learn. So to cook in another ethnic style you have to start a dialog with those people. Contact and dialog is the first step to breaking barriers. Life would be boring if we were all the same. Ed
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RHP User
17 years ago
As I was typing my reply to this topic, I was actually wearing a Socceroos 2006 World Cup supporters jersey (different design but with "SOCCEROOS 06" on the back. On the front: Football Federation Australia logo on the left side and the Australian FLAG on the right side! phantomcs
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RHP User
17 years ago
Geez! Political correctness has got out of control if culling cane toads, rabbits, foxes and feral cats is now considered racist. More so if they worry about the culinary flamboyant French and their frogs legs cuisine. I wonder how many bleeding hearts are also vegetarians? Plants have feelings too... just ask tree hugging Prince Charles. Interestingly, true blue Aussie Kevin Bloody Wilson pointed out recently on the ABC's 'Enough Rope' that Charlie is an avid fan, so even royalty is becoming more common (smiling as he muses over Charlie's past tampon references during a famous recorded phone tapped conversation, before Di sadly came to grief on French soil). I notice too how sweet xxMiss_Honeyxx does not discriminate against the French, who are not only noted for their cuisine but also their couture. Our Miss is obviously a highly cultured lady of passion who can tantalize us in every way from matters of the catwalk to her cheeky non-curriculum college activities. Who in their right mind would not want to take French lessons from xxMiss_Honeyxx? In particular, fully enunciating the sexual vocabulary and intimately getting our conjoined tongues around her wordplay. Another popular way of exchanging fluids, even when French letters are mandatory.
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RHP User
17 years ago
*donks Eunuch on the head wiv her lollipop* OI! I am a vegetarian. No frenchy lessons for u now cheeky boy. Je vous aime toujours pour votre carotte Eunuch hehehehehehe. Come on VNG lets go to that great cake shop we know down the road where me and my school friends like to play with the icing bags and choccie sauce. Sorry for being norty in ya thread Choo Choo, but those two lead me astray everytime...spank me :P xxMiss Honeyxx
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RHP User
17 years ago
you may hijack any thread i write and have my blessing. :-x LRE (not a thread natzi)
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RHP User
17 years ago
How next to celebrate Australia Day at LP's (either Lupo's Patisserie or Ladies Playground)... Miss Honey can be the costume designer and flags be the theme. Moral support provided by Tina, and Giggles offering the mischief element. For economy and pervert reasons, all shapely cougars and nymphettes should have outfits cut from material no larger than a postage stamp. Followers of LRE's flag sentiments can be dressed either as members of Witchetty's tribe (Jolliffe's Outback), or the shy adored in an Indigenous Flag. Sorry only one Indigenous Flag to go around, so we can play a novel version of musical chairs here. Those expatriate lovelies keen on commemorating British settlement can wear miniature Union Jacks, with our Blue Ensign cladding the true blue birdies, though our Red Ensign may be more appropriate once they're afloat on a liberal source of fermented refreshments, particularly if the fabric changes hue like litmus paper when subject to spillage or the flow of natural juices. Even better if the costume completely dissolves. Food for thought as we next munch on Lupo's cakes and pastries?
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RHP User
17 years ago
again as a person of mix aboriganal race..... I see the great southern land only from my perception and give me cause I will turn into a racist bigot as turn a 5c coin.... to have a true flag one must fly it as one would in battle in this country.... the only flag to be flown in this country in battle at that time was the union jack.... again'st new south wales western plain tribes as they descended the blue mountains to avenge the hawkesbury tribes... medicine mans upside down crucifixiion..... on half moon farm for killing a squatter on tribal land... it was a battle of scorched earth... the whole of the sydney basin ablaze..... victory turned to famine.... the white settlers had to rely on tasmania for food..... aussie flag....the union jack in the corner stands for the united kingdom....but also the silience for the blood of those victorious and also those defeated... comming together as one people.... under the southern cross apon the great southern land..... you cant change your history.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Can I get the opinion (specifically) of people of mixed indigenous race, on whether or not you would like to see anything on the Australian flag that symbolises our indigenous heritage? Or simply leave it as it is? If not, my opinion would otherwise be to leave the flag as it is. phantomcs
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RHP User
17 years ago
the dreamtime captured apon a flag face...I see no change in my lifetime.... cheers astralwalker
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RHP User
17 years ago
I'm a big believer that we need to shed our ties with the Monarchy and move to a republic. As for the flag, I'm pretty happy with my red, yellow and black one... :)
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RHP User
17 years ago
you do that,, make this country a replublic, and i garuntee you, WA and probably SA/NT.. will break away from teh federation, and become an Independent nation. And thats when the Republic of Austalia get stuffed.. why? 90% of the nations resources and wealth comes from WA BWUAHHAA Viva La English Empire! :P er... *walks off*
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RHP User
17 years ago
and no i'm not having a go at muslim people or any one else for that matter i was sent this via email and thought i would do my usual and SHARE An incident occurred in a Merrylands supermarket recently, when the following was witnessed: A Muslim woman dressed in a Burkha (A black gown & face mask) was standing with her shopping in a queue at the checkout. When it was her turn to be served, and as she reached the cashier, she made a loud remark about the AUSTRALIAN FLAG lapel pin, which the female cashier was wearing on her blouse. The cashier reached up and touched the pin and said, 'Yes, I always wear it proudly. My son serves abroad with the forces and I wear it for him'. The Muslim woman then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing and killing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi. At that point, a Gentleman standing in the queue stepped forward, and interrupted with a calm and gentle voice, and said to the Iraqi woman: 'Excuse me, but hundreds of thousands of men and women, just like this ladies son have fought and sacrificed their lives so that people just like YOU can stand here, in Australia , which is MY country and allow you to blatantly accuse an innocent check-out cashier of bombing YOUR countrymen'. 'It is my belief that if you were allowed to be as outspoken as that in Iraq , which you claim to be YOUR country, then we wouldn't need to be fighting there today'. 'However - now that you have learned how to speak out and criticise the English-Australian people who have afforded you the protection of Their country, I will gladly pay the cost of a ticket to help you pay your way back to Iraq '. 'When you get there, and if you manage to survive for being as outspoken as you are here in Australia , then you should be able to help straighten out the mess which YOUR Iraqi countrymen have got you into in the first place, which appears to be the reason that you came to MY country to avoid.' Apparently the queue cheered and applauded. IF YOU AGREE... Pass this on to all of your proud Aussie friends. I just did.............!!! as per xxx jak xxx of mingled blood and ancestors
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RHP User
17 years ago
Jak, it is this sort of inflammatory shit that gets sent around the net that does absolutely nothing for relations between Muslims and Westerners. Do you really believe this scenario took place?? That sort of inciteful crap just spurs racists on, instead of encouraging them to look outside the mainstream media of which LRE mentions, and make their own informed opinions and decisions. And I find it interesting that you remove yourself from a piece of writing that you find so necessary to 'share' in a public forum. I think if you didn't agree with it, you wouldn't have posted it.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Sorry Jaxxy, I kind of agree with Soubriquet on this one. For sure the story is a spirited response but I seriously doubt it ever happened. I think our soldiers deserve our support though, absent of all the theological motives. I am an ardent apathetic agnostic! I am really pissed about the Somalian 13 year old who was stoned to death the other day simply by reason that she had been raped by three men. If you want to bitch about how the ancient ignorant beliefs of old world sheep herders has no place in our world ... now there's a subject that surely we can all agree on.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Its "un Australian" to talk about being "un Australian" all the time. I mean define being Un Australian? or for that matter being Australian? Leave people to do as they do, as long as they are not harming anyone....so what! LoL
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RHP User
17 years ago
JAX,Think you are having ago at the muslims,Which is fine,even though you say you are not. As far as us being in IRAQ,There was never ever any need for us to go there,Stupid HOWARD was led by the nose,by BUSH, Reason for this is,that JOHN HOWARD likes abit of BUSH Must admit ,that the extrememist Muslims ,are a weird bunch of wackos. This only applies to the EXTREMIST MUSLIMS.
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RHP User
17 years ago
I am sure many of you may disagree with me. I could not believe to see this topic here but hey there are no restrictions. You or I may have had sex with many people from many parts of the world and have discovered how many wonderful things every person and culture has to offer. However, besides all that we also get a close encounter and a personal experiment to see every one of us is human and similar flesh no matter what part of the world we come from. If you look at animals, you see major differences among cats, dogs, rats , etc. When it comes to us apart from being slim/fat, tall/short, etc there are no major differences. So why do we have FLAGS ? and Why do we keep holding on to them on the 21st century? Flags , borders and such means of signifying differences and divisions among mankind (women included lol) are nothing but political tools of division created or encourages by Politician and Warlords. Lets think bigger than our selves and our back yard and realize we re all human with similar shortcomings and failures. An "Intelligent Creature" does not fight over a piece of fabric no matter what design it has and what color it is. Unless we decide to think like Bulls and get agitated when another abusing party waves the red flag in front of us to irritate our short fused nerves info fighting reaction. Are we that low? Dom
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RHP User
17 years ago
that email surfaced in the USA in 2003 and it's orrigin is unverifyable. some local conservative fundimetalist has edited it and started recirculating it in australia so we can hate and be scared of the different people too. in the US version of the email they claim she was wearing burqa (full face cover), but an iraqui woman would be more likley to wear a hijab (just a scarf). so possibly it was all just some hard line natnionlist beat up. dont get your muslim cultures confused. LRE (the snope)
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RHP User
17 years ago
If yer SO anal about being Aussie, then by all means, lets all pack our bags and leave this country to thre REAL aussies, the Aboriginals.. but thats what YOU think. They have only been in this country for 200 years before Cook founded Botany Bay.. for there was antoher tribe that settled here for thousands of years,the Polynesians, but they killed them all.. so.. Who ARE the real Aussies? i say, them Wombats and them roos are the real aussies.. perhaps we should make this entire nation one big effing national park just to solve everyone's uptight issues :P so.. in other words be grateful wif what ya got.. and deal wif it..
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RHP User
17 years ago
I have to say I'm a little surprised. Not quite the topic I expeceted to come across on an adult dating website but while I'm here, might as well add my two cents worth. To me the term "un-Australian" in itself is some of the most pretentious dialogue we Aussies have come to use. Why? Let me explain. As a young fairly multicultural society I think we sometimes struggle a bit for a clear, uniform idea of what being Australian truly is. Ask the average Joe on the street and they might throw up a few ideals like "the fair go" or "mateship." Things that whilst being typically Australian ideals, are not the EXCLUSIVE intillectual property of the current Aussie population. Sure we embrace these sorts of things quite readily (when it suits us) but so do a ton of other people from a wide range of nationalities. To imply that our set of values are ours and ours alone reeks of hypocracy and is a tad pretentious if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for many of the values we hold dear in this country. But lets not kid ourselves and say that a country that has only been on the world map for a little over two hundred years is the beacon of modern values. Which brings us to a very sad example of "Australian" behaviour. I actually grew up in Cronulla from the age of 12 to 17. Given it's proximity to many mainly ethnic communities and its easy accessability by train. On weekends, as always a bit of resentment of having to have so many visitors to our home. Particularly when some of those visitors adopted a gang like mentality and showed no respect for the people that lived and worked in the area. But honestly guys. Was the best solution to get together, get pissed, and become the very thing we had come to dispise? A gang? An angry mob. What did it achieve? Nada. Except if you were one of the poor bastards who had their property damaged or their relatives beaten up for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Good result that one. My point is. Next time you go to use the term "un-Australian" remember that whilst there are plenty of awesome things about being an Aussie. There's some pretty shitty things that we have to take ownership of too. I love my countryvery much. I've travelled a lot and I still think it's the best in the world. But, we're far from perfect. And we certainly don't own the rights to good manners. Let's all take a good look at ourselves eh.
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RHP User
17 years ago
thanks spartanis for giving us a history lesson... from someone who claims to be australian..an absolute disgrace... how you would get pre european settlement history on new zealand mixed with pre european australian history from that time miss phoenix it is not just this generation dumbed down....the minimum is 12,000 years of black settlement maybe at penrith excavations will prove over 40,000 black settlement years cheers astralwalker
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RHP User
17 years ago
Man... I don't know where the hell you got that info from, but it's WRONG! As old mate said it's been proven through carbon dating that Aboriginal people were here up to 60,000 years ago and there is proof of dwellings to resemble 'settlement' from 12,000 years back. But back to un-Australian. I agree with the guy that said it's pretentious. It is. It's also bullshit. :)
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RHP User
17 years ago
We consider ourselves Aussie and fly all the flags we can Yes we fly the Blue flag Yes we fly the Red Yes we fly the beautiful blck red and yellow flag to honour the original Aussies Hell we will even fly the boxing kangaroo. Why bang on about which flag is which and original, for F$#s sake be proud and fly them all. BTW- Seems by all the whingeing in this forum that more than a few should credit there English heritage ;)
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