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obesity
December 22 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
The obesity issues we are seeing today are due to reasons much more complex than just food. Anyone interested should do some reading about the 'social determinants of health'.
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RHP User
12 years ago
And Chev, you do realise ICU is not just for women?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mes... I didn't know that pregnancy in men was a problem ? 😄😄😄😄 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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wingman2014
12 years ago
So many people these days are time poor . Last century Australia legislated that the day should be 8+8+8 . 8 hours work 8 hours PLAY 8 hours rest. These days it is impossible , work demands are crushing , Internet means for many the work day never ends . In many cases both parents need to work so meals are usually takeaway cos they are cheap and convenient if lacking in nutrition , children are left to entertain them selves , usually infront of a tv screen or computer. We instead have a nanny state where kids are wrapped in cotton wool. No more doing kid stuff that taught them about social interaction like climbing trees , playing cricket on the road. Footy in the park or fishing off a wharf. We reap from what we sow . As a result we have obese adults now who see this cycle as normal and therefore we have the health problems that go along with it . Very sad really. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
The ICU and maternity ward are two different things. ICU used for the public... Fat or thin. Chev I think you have a thing against women. Men are have as many health and obesity issues as women. And yes, this is old news.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I enjoy your posts, but more often than not you seem to grab random phrases from papers and TV-shows and regurgitate them in a sticky mess like a mama bird. .I'll assume you have watched Supersize vs Superskinny, where it was indeed shown that hospital beds and coffins in America have to be made in increasingly larger sizes..But now you're telling us that entire Intensive Care Units are being enlarged. Fret not Chev.Hospital wards are staying the same size, and the doorways in hospitals always have double doors, so no need to widen them. .And could you define fatty foods? The whole fried chickens at Woollies contain 2700 KJ I noticed yesterday. Should they be taxed, or are you merely referring fast food chains?.Please start thinking a bit more about what it is exactly you're trying to convey before hitting that Post button.
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RHP User
12 years ago
It is a hospital for women
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RHP User
12 years ago
Increase the taxes on dumb arses. Brian food & education. That's the key Chevy.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Anyone who ever has knows that its usually a far higher percentage of men than women who have "let themselves go".
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RHP User
12 years ago
WA's specialist maternity hospital has been forced to widen doorways and upsize theatre equipment to cope with more overweight pregnant women - including some in the extreme "super-obese" category.. Almost one in five pregnant women treated at King Edward Memorial Hospital last year were significantly obese, including some with a body mass index of more than 50.. Figures show that 1028 obstetrics patients with a BMI of 35 and over were booked in last year.The trend has continued this year, with 811 women with a BMI of 35 and over treated up until last month.. The number of cases has prompted the hospital to enlarge rooms and equipment, including wider doorways, theatre table extenders, reinforced stirrups, scales that can weigh patients up to 300kg and floor-mounted rather than wall-mounted toilets.. Ceiling hoists and air-assisted transfer mats are increasingly being used to protect staff from strain injuries when moving so-called bariatric patients.. BMI, a ratio of weight to height, is considered a strong indicator of the risk of medical complications in the mother and baby during labour and birth.. A BMI of 35 and over requires specialist maternity care, while only KEMH can handle pregnant women with a BMI of more than 40.. A national maternity report this week found that at least 200 WA women who gave birth in 2011 had a BMI of 40 and over, including more than 20 in the "super-obese" category.. Australian Medical Association WA vice-president and obstetrician Michael Gannon said it was a growing and worrying trend.. "These women need careful monitoring in specialist units that have access to high dependency and intensive care units," he said.. "It's a huge issue and we're hoping it will start to plateau soon because it has big implications for the level of care needed for both the mother and baby.. "Unfortunately, obesity is a society-wide issue and most of these women are already obese well before they become pregnant.". Dr Gannon said the risks for obese women trying to have children were wideranging, including infertility issues, gestational diabetes and high blood pressure. It was also more difficult to accurately scan obese women during their pregnancy.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Obesity is a far more complicated issue than the food eaten. And no, I'm not interested in giving the Government any more taxes in any way, shape, or form!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Chev,.That's how you do it. But why on earth would that place have single doorways? How old is it?
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RHP User
12 years ago
a very complex issue and taxing fatty foods alone will not solve the problem. Much of it is tied up with emotional baggage and living in a very isolating society. Lack of direct human contact, ie. talking face to face instead of texting. Lack of extended family and friends. The fear of being judged on appearance prevents so many obese people from going out and interacting and socialising and beginning to lead a healthy lifestyle (a Catch 22 situation). These examples are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to reasons for obesity in the community for men, women and unfortunately children too. IMHO a little more love, human kindness and understanding in the world would certainly help those that need healing so that they can believe life is for them to enjoy too. SF
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RHP User
12 years ago
Woohoo! It's nearly a century old! Apparently, the hospital commenced operating on 14 July 1916.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'd never know. He is the Brian Henderson of Rhp :-D - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
"The social determinants of health are the conditions in which people are born, grow, live, work and age. These circumstances are shaped by the distribution of money, power and resources at global, national and local levels." (WHO) "Obesity is becoming a real public health challenge in transitioning countries, as it already is in high-income nations. Obesity prevention requires approaches that ensure a sustainable, adequate, and nutritious food supply; a habitat that lends itself to easy uptake of healthier food; participation in physical activity; and a family, educational, and work environment that positively reinforces healthy living. Very little of this action sits within the capabilities or responsibilities of the health sector. Positive advances have been made – for example, bans on advertisements for foods high in fats, sugars, and salt during television programmes aimed at children. However, a significant challenge remains: to engage with the multiple sectors outside health in areas such as trade, agriculture, employment, and education, if we are to redress the global obesity epidemic." (WHO) The social determinants of health as identified by the WHO in 2003 include: - Social gradient (life expectancy is shorter and disease is more common further down the social ladder) - Stress (including stress in the workplace) - Early childhood development - Social exclusion - Unemployment - Social support networks - Addiction - Availability of healthy food - Availability of healthy transportation
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RHP User
12 years ago
Shit I spelt brain wrong! Damn you phone. Hahahaha. Better go eat another Big Mac.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Obesity or anorexia? Having been on both ends of the spectrum I do believe that a lot of peoples' food issues stem from the state of their mental well being and not the availability of fast food. Unfortunately we don't always realise the damage we are doing to our own bodies.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the more overweight you are, the harder it is to actually fall pregnant? Must be something in the water in WA.....
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RHP User
12 years ago
Meeks... Pretty clever huh... ? ...got a spare Big Mac...? 😄😄😄😄 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Just been released showing there is no correlation between lung disease and passive smoking. Should we decrease the taxes on tobacco? Taxes don't really change peoples habits. Education is the key.
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RHP User
12 years ago
You wouldn't be a smoker would you... ? Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mesmerised'Please start thinking a bit more about what it is exactly you're trying to convey before hitting that Post button. Seriously? Surely Chev is entitled to post whatever he likes (within the rules)? Not to mention that throwing out ill-informed, semi-outrageous statements in the interests of provoking discussion is one of the oldest known (poetic licence intended) forms of debate. The thread itself demonstrates this, with plenty of people offering thoughtful, perhaps even genuinely educated responses. My tip: If you don't like it, don't engage. If you don't understand it, ask genuine questions. Both of those things are a far cry from policing posts to make sure they suit your intellectual sensibilities. I suspect this is one of the many reasons new posters don't feel comfortable joining in the forums, for fear of being judged/belittled/criticised/talked down to/dismissed ... etc. Chev, I have no idea if you're the real deal or just an avid story-teller. Either way, I admire your resilience in the face of fairly constant judgment and put downs. A particle can exist in two places, on opposite sides of the world, at exactly the same time. I therefore - at the very least - allow for the possibility that your stories might be true and that you might be a truly genuine, thoughtful forumite. And if you're not, who cares ... it doesn't impact me in the slightest :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't think yet another tax is anything that will help the situation. Blame the huge food companies that pump their foods with high fructose corn syrups that block the signals to the brain that we're full and makes those foods highly palatable (so we want more and eat more). We all live much more fast paced yet sedentary lifestyles with a huuuuuggggeeeee increase in processed convenience foods in our diets to allow us that precious thing called MORE TIME! It's a multifaceted problem and requires a multifaceted solution, not just a tax.
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RHP User
12 years ago
There is so much alarmist garbage out there in the media, one old hospital is modified to suit modern medical needs, hardly a big deal. It's clearly being used to spark debate which is fine but why do it in a roundabout way? In my opinion, There are some legitimate health issues that cause obesity, but those issues aside- obesity in adults is a choice. People choose that second helping, they choose to get KFC rather than cook at home, people choose to veg out in front of the tv instead of doing some exercise etc etc. Granted, long work days are a significant cause of time poor people being obese, but there are little things that people can do in their everyday lives that would be considered exercise. I'm a bigger guy, and I can honestly say that the reason I put on weight originally was pure and utter laziness. Nowadays losing the weight is harder due to serious injuries which were not my fault. I'm losing the weight but its taking longer and is harder but it's happening. A lot of people refuse to take responsibility for their choices, that is why some people will keep getting bigger and unhealthier.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Halcyon_days' Quoting 'Mesmerised'Please start thinking a bit more about what it is exactly you're trying to convey before hitting that Post button. Seriously? Surely Chev is entitled to post whatever he likes (within the rules)? It is merely a request. I even said please. And you must have missed the part where I said I always enjoy his posts.
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's like one of those backhanded compliments. "I like you ... but <insert demand>". Saying please doesn't change the fact that you effectively told Chev what he could/couldn't or should/shouldn't do. The irony of that v your post on the logging off thread didn't escape you, surely?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' You wouldn't be a smoker would you... ? Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... - Posted from rhpmobile I have recently heard of another study showing the rates of obesity in children under 5 (or some similar age) is starting to decrease, showing that education, rather than taxes, is working. Once the government imposes taxes, they are very reluctant to repeal them even after they are redundant. As far as my continual fight against my nicotine habit is concerned, it's not my health or the ridiculous taxation and laws regarding tobacco use that motivates me to keep trying to give up. I dislike being addicted and beholden to a plant. My addiction to my own humour is big enough problem without adding to the problem.
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RHP User
12 years ago
12 months ago I was classed as borderline "Morbidly Obese" (i.e. very top end of Class II Obesity, nearly Class III)... now I am at the bottom of "Overweight" by all the standard medical ratings that most doctors I've seen use. BMI is BS (muscle supposedly weights more than fat etc etc?) however being grossly over weight is unhealthy and having lost over 40Kg in 12 months I know it is bloody hard work and neigh on impossible to do without help. Whilst taxing unhealthy food won't stop people from eating the wrong foods (look at how well it is working with smoking and hey what about prohibition!) if the money is filtered into actively helping people (education is NOT enough) then it is a worth while option to be considered. SG(Stepping of his reformed big persons soapbox before offending someone more than already has been done)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Nooooo!...good quality Triple Cream Brie is expensive enough...need some treats in this life :) On the other hand, a tax on fatty junk food could be helful to go towards paying for Bariatric equipment for Health Services, Ambulance services etc.
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RHP User
12 years ago
You clearly haven't looked at your pics have you?? And you're worried about other people's weight?? Worry not about others unless you're Fabio yourself me thinks :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Maternity hospital and ICU.Why would there be a man at a maternity ICU.Has science jumped ahead and I miss readingabout it.LMAO
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RHP User
12 years ago
Why? Because door ways in hospitals have always been widened as technology evolves. Back in the day a hospital door way had no need to be as big because all that was needed to fit threw the door was the bed. These days the duty of care has gotten a lot better ,where beds can swivel,help the patient sit up and also have machines attached to the bed such as IV drips,respirator's,slings ect Add all the nurses,specialists and doctors that accompany a patient and you need a bigger door way. Its like saying bigger Ambulances are needed these days... i remember back in the day a panel wagon was the ambulance of choice ,these days we have big vans so a paramedic can sit in the back with all the equipment needed to help the patient have a better chance at survival. If anything its about time they widened the door ways,some hospitals are degrading and still have 70s technology and building standards. A big mac would be great now ! Ohh and if you lady's want to fight can we start a "lingerie jelly wrestling thread"? Cheers
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RHP User
12 years ago
If you're overweight.... It's NOT a mystery or surprise to you. You don't suddenly have an epiphany one morning and say " wow, how did I get to 145kg?!!" If you're a fatty.... You know it. You know your choices, you know your options. The only real issue then.... becomes.... are you the type of person who wants to be that way or not. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
And chev.... As sirlurk suggested....to me, i find your phrasing of the original topic given one of your photos.... And the saying about glass houses v stones comes to mind. (No idea what the car pics are designed to do but hey.... DG) - Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Maybe your New Year's resolution will be to think more post less.....
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'I_N_D_A_G_I_N_E' Chev you're a wanker Maybe your New Year's resolution will be to think more post less..... WOW! Seems to me this topic is being taken far too seriously!!! . Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' And chev.... As sirlurk suggested....to me, i find your phrasing of the original topic given one of your photos.... And the saying about glass houses v stones comes to mind. (No idea what the car pics are designed to do but hey.... DG) - Posted from rhpmobile And far too personally by some!!! . Quoting 'chevtrek' Meeka DUhhhh Maternity hospital and ICU.Why would there be a man at a maternity ICU.Has science jumped ahead and I miss readingabout it.LMAO This gave me a good f*cking laugh!!! That this topic is about a maternity hospital is clearly in the OP...
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RHP User
12 years ago
The only single doorways I have seen there are maybe the odd paramedical/investigative areas outside the campus.
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RHP User
12 years ago
No one has mentioned one of the main causes of obesity is simple LACK OF CONTROL when it comes to food. Let's face it, most of us have got a bit of a pot belly, and it only gets there through overeating. Overeating can be controlled, and to do that, one has to change the way they think about food. I've lost a few kgs recently just through cutting down on how much I eat, and if I can continue it and get that fab body I used to have when younger, I'll be very happy. Um, Chevtrek, going by your pics, you could do with shedding a few pounds u know. Haven't you ever heard of the old saying: "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
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RHP User
12 years ago
I agree with all that have said obesity is a much more complex issue than food, and the social determinants of health is a great insight into some of those. Completely agree that bmi is a joke, at my fittest (and skiniest) I was still considered over my ideal bmi - and let me tell you I was all muscle, in fact if anything I'd say I had too little fat on me. There are several factors that women specifically may experience that causes extra weight, and they are more common than many people realise (pcos being one that I'm all to familiar with) In relation to maternity wards however I wonder (and from personal experience of family and friends) if the advances in fertility treatment and alternative options for conception if that has a significant impact on the increase in obese women having babies? I also think people need to remember a skinny person doesn't always equal healthy and an "overweight" person doesn't mean unhealthy. I know plenty of people who are skinny but live terrible lifestyles. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
it is not just what people put in their mouths,but why....my word for the day is supercilious
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RHP User
12 years ago
supercilious I meant
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On_Safari
12 years ago
It has nothing to do with the topic.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Freya77' it is not just what people put in their mouths,but why....my word for the day is supercilious Yep Freya, if women were more careful about where they were letting men spill their seed... there'd be no need for maternity hospitals at all.
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Rockme2018
12 years ago
I find this topic blatantly offensive and judgemental. Thought this was supposed to be a sex/networking site and yet we have to put up with this bullshit????
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RHP User
12 years ago
They already think we're hicks over here and you're not helping the case. I feel like the appropriate advice right now is that old chestnut: "Remember, it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Also, I read an article by a doctor on the internet that says the amount of masturbation modern males do is unhealthy and unnatural and causing unnecessary strain on their bodies which is ultimately causing their IQs to fall. Less of your resources are being used to power your brain, and more to replenish your little swimmers. Perhaps this is contrasting evolution, women get so fat that men don't want to have sex as much in order to stop you blowing your brains out all over my tits.
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Languid
12 years ago
ban all food.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ok Indy, I think your post sucks, it's nasty and unneccessary, as well as having nothing to do with the topic. Note how I kept it to your behaviour rather than making it personal and calling you names. . For all those who find this topic offensive... perhaps you should be directing your ire at the people responsible for the printing of the story in the first place... The West Australian Newspaper.
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's a curious thing,drinking cum is indeed a fattening thing...but conversely it can apparently cure a common cold....ahh ahh tissue
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'CravingTouch' Also, I read an article by a doctor on the internet that says the amount of masturbation modern males do is unhealthy and unnatural and causing unnecessary strain on their bodies which is ultimately causing their IQs to fall. Less of your resources are being used to power your brain, and more to replenish your little swimmers. Though somewhere in here I did mention it, that I am aware to having the intellectual capacity of a toasted muffin. And those few words there, are the reason why. Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Freya77' It's a curious thing,drinking cum is indeed a fattening thing...but conversely it can apparently cure a common cold....ahh ahh tissue Woo I can skip dinner :P
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Quoting 'CravingTouch' Also, I read an article by a doctor on the internet that says the amount of masturbation modern males do is unhealthy and unnatural and causing unnecessary strain on their bodies which is ultimately causing their IQs to fall. Less of your resources are being used to power your brain, and more to replenish your little swimmers. Though somewhere in here I did mention it, that I am aware to having the intellectual capacity of a toasted muffin. And those few words there, are the reason why. Mado LOL, I was about to tell you to "get your hand off it" but then I remembered where my other hand is right now and thought against it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
What utter rubbish they have had wide doors for years lol seriously! Perhaps we put a tax on everything food clothes kitchen sink let's not stop just there! I can't believe some would post this on this site. Lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
As an admirer of larger ladies I had to put in my 2 cents worth to this discussion,for a start some people have hormone problem which is the majority of women and some blokes ,most blokes problem come from beer.Another thing every one seems to miss is humans ARE getting bigger.Geez go to Britain or euroupe and have a look at the 4 or 500 yr old houses ,Im only 5ft7i and I kept belting my scone on doorways
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RHP User
12 years ago
This is really annoying as I've noticed quite a few of my comments on various forum posts, including this one, wasn't approved for posting. Okay - I did not use foul language.....I did not use racial or hatred remarks......I did not name or shame anyone, so................what's the problem???????????????????????
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RHP User
12 years ago
I imagine calling someone else's topic bullshit could be interpreted as offensive. Especially when the topic is situated in the Off Topic category, which is specifically FOR those discussions that are not purely (or even at all) about sex. The topic reflects issues being discussed in main stream media, was posted by an adult, on the forums, in the off-topic category, on an ADULT (note, not 'sex') dating site. What exactly is there for you to be so outraged by?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes the doors are wide at the maternity but becauseof todays obesity they need to be wider.Biggest loser is coming up and they are going to dothe fattest town in Australia.Now I only saw some shots in commercials but heyI did not see one normal sized person.You act like we should all sit back an ignore these peopleand the health problems or deaths by obesity.Obesity is about to take over cancer as a major killer solets not worry about cancer either.Last of all in 2011 they showed in Melbourne 2 lots ofambulance crews trying to get a patient out of a house.Since then there has been more and in the uk they hadto use a crane on a man to move him.GEE get real.
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RHP User
12 years ago
You seem quite obsessed on these subjects perhaps go on a health forum and chat about it there just saying :-) Yes there are problems about it but where shall we finish about a lot of problems we have mmmmm let me see the biggest one being alcohol :-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Hard core drinkers/drunks can be made tosuffer.Using the proof of age card and MDL have a sectionsaying medi alert no sale of grog.Also if a person gives alcohol or buys it for suchperson a 1000 fine.If drink drivers cant get grog then less chancethere drunk on the road.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'chevtrek' Biggest loser is coming up and they are going to do the fattest town in Australia. Now I only saw some shots in commercials but hey I did not see one normal sized person. It is The Biggest Loser, so they would only show the obese people. . But yes, this year Australia was ranked the fourth fattest country in the world (Source: Ninemsn), which I think is sad and worrying.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'chevtrek' Hard core drinkers/drunks can be made tosuffer.Using the proof of age card and MDL have a sectionsaying medi alert no sale of grog.Also if a person gives alcohol or buys it for suchperson a 1000 fine.If drink drivers cant get grog then less chancethere drunk on the road. Let's make it harder and/or more expensive for the responsible people. Tax fatty foods and force everyone to have an 'I can drink" card. Educate people and let them make their own choices. We're not an endangered species. If people want to eat or drink themselves into an early grave, let them. If anything, we should have less government interference in our day to day lives. Our nanny state is ridiculous.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I've resisted the urge to have a rant about taxes and 'controlling' type solutions. Taxes IMO add insult to injury that not only does the government rort huge amounts of money in the name of doing the population good, huge amounts of our taxes are too often used to support the excesses of the same government through policies and individual spending. . What do people think of the new idea of charging everyone $5 per visit to the Dr... and the follow up suggestion of including visits to ERs to cut down on the numbers visiting.
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RHP User
12 years ago
What you say is true but I have seen in in the supermarket mothers buying junk food for there kids.People on the dole going to the bank then onto the liquor store.I also agree education is needed but thinkmaybe educate the children as the parentsas hell don't show brains.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'chevtrek' What you say is true but I have seen in in the supermarket mothers buying junk food for there kids. From the same Ninemsn article: . "Australia is number one for fruit and vegetable consumption, while Finland, which has substantially fewer obese people, is at the bottom of the rankings. . . Go figure.
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RHP User
12 years ago
But I have a Darwinian philosophy to life. Survival of the fittest. If your parents aren't fit to give you the tools you need to continue their genes then you don't deserve to reproduce.
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RHP User
12 years ago
You know, my kids are at different ends of the scale as far as their weight goes. One tends towards lean and the other towards voluptuous. So I discount the, 'blaming the parents theory'. . I disagree with you Darwinism theory on the principle Funlover, that it takes many influences to form what we all become. Look at how many have risen above their station throughout history to become so much more to the world than one might have supposed judging by their circumstances at birth. . On the topic of obesity, an article from a recent Reader's Digest tells me, 'Electricity is making us sick and fat'. It has to do with disturbing the circadian rhythm. I'm all about thythm atm actually.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear' . I disagree with you Darwinism theory on the principle Funlover, that it takes many influences to form what we all become. Look at how many have risen above their station throughout history to become so much more to the world than one might have supposed judging by their circumstances at birth. . But what did their offspring do?
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RHP User
12 years ago
as with many social problems, obesity has slowly gripped society. It is now the single biggest threat to our way of life. I'm talking about a bmi in excess of 30. It is questionable whether a bmi of 25 to 30 is really overweight. A bmi of 30 or more has an increased mortality rate of roughly 30 percent from all causes. The cause which is relatively simple is often overly analysed. Blame genetics, blame lack of time, blame beer, blame high caloric foods. The problem is lack of exercise and excessive food intake. The current recommendations suggest 60 mins of aerobic exercise per day !!! While the pressures of life make this extremely difficult for some it is really up to the individual to do something about it. Male obesity is probably more of a concern as most males are more blase' about everything.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Has anybody got ideas to add to reduce obesity or drunks
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RHP User
12 years ago
Make it illegal to be overweight. If you don't respond to fines, you get put into fat jail, where you'll be forced to eat and move appropriately until you've broken your fat habits. I should be the next female PM, RIGHT?!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'chevtrek' Has anybody got ideas to add to reduce obesity or drunks Gladiator-style tournaments for food and booze.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mesmerised Gladiator-style tournaments for food and booze. Just try to get between me and my Bundy rum!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mandatory decent fitness activities in schools, I'm talking from reception age, by the time kids are in year 12 they should be at an almost military fitness level. not just standing around pretending to do what the PE teacher says, there needs to be super strict rules on what can be eaten at school, both home bought and from the canteen. The reason I say the military level is because I know of a lot of people who would have loved to join the army or police straight out of school, but didn't/couldn't because of their fitness. Large, city based companies should have a deal with local gyms where the use of the gym is subsidised by the company and then claimed as a business expense, work takes up so much of our time that our employers are partly to blame for some of our bad habits. Or for the average person, gym memberships should be 50% deductible to a certain amount. As far as I'm concerned, gym memberships are a medical expense, and medical expenses above 2100 (I think) are deductible.
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RHP User
12 years ago
but there is loads of education about nutrition and about alcohol abuse. And pardon me if I feel a little annoyed about people wanting to control others choices. I'm with Funlover, you give people the information and you let them make their own choices. Shite CT, I'd be happy to go into fat jail where I could have a personal trainer to work with me to build an exercise regime that would help me get back my fitness. I want to be fed excellent quality, healthy food and I want a glass of wine with dinner while I am in there. Its good for me! Being overweight is not always a personal choice and sometimes its because of the dieting yoyo that people have been on in their earlier years that stuff them up entirely in their later years. Then there are illnesses and physical injuries that can impact a person's ability to exercise. So yep, a plethora of reasons and I think we should remember to walk a mile in someone's moccasins before we assume, criticise and judge.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I've worked in Drug & Alcohol services for half my life, but I'll keep it short. . The only way you can take away an alcoholic's free will when it comes to giving up drinking in Sydney is to place them under the Drug and Alcohol Treatment Act, which replaced the Inebriates Act here last year. (The latter was a hundred years old!) . Doing this is a last resort, only to be used when someone is not able (anymore) to make informed decisions about/for themselves. You cannot take away an adult's right to choose, so normally treatment can only be given with the person's consent. And rightfully so!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Today, I've heard the suggestion on the news to tax drinks by alcohol level. I can see the potential of this hitting the people who can least afford it the hardest. Putting even more stress and strain on and most likely driving them to seek ever more comfort in their addiction, and so the nasty cycle goes on. My final break from smoking several years ago came about after doing a smoking cessation course, which set me up to be ready to be a quitter when the right life event came along. . Last night, I watched a program about compulsive eaters. I've watched shows about hoarders. People who can't eat. All for their different reasons and raising the taxes is not going to work as a control. . Funlover, I've thought on your question, and I guess in my mind, each generation, in civilised countries, in this day and age of plentiful education resources has it's choices about how well educated they become. Offspring from a more successful family will have a better backing to thrive regardless of their individual ability. A huge amount of the examples of parenting I've experienced have been shocking in the extreme. I can't tell you how much effort I've put into being a far better parent/person than what I know. It can be about breaking the cycle. . Oh yes, and can I visit you in jail Wild? You don't have a Monopoly there do you?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Well my thoughts are growth hormones as Ihave been doing some net research and don't see such problems in small community's.WE have to stop farmers using these productsas it stands to reason that if you feed it to an animal its going to be imbedded into the meat.Funlover I love my wild turkey and cougar andhave 4 bottles of each on the bar but when I drinkI have a brain that says don't drive nor do I getviolent .Last of all do you think that a drink driver only gets 9 years jail for killing a child or less with parole.
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