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Wife Swapping.

June 18 2011

My gorgeous wife avoids the topic of swinging by bringing out the negative sides of it.I can't see any negatives as a male. I'm actually very happy for her to explore her sexuality more.She loves men. I feel she might be jealous of me and other women.Please offer any advice that will release my babe in her sexual prime.Thanks all.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    If she would be jealous of you and other women, don't fuck other women.xx Sarah

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    My Mrs became more positive about it as we progressed from watching porn together to webcam chats, which eventually led to a meet. Try moving slowly through carefully planned stages.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Have you been to a swing club? Would she just to watch? Watch serious movies on the subject plus porn on swinging? Have you tried cam sex? with other couples? Read books by people who are in the lifestyle and have been for years? Soft swing, just watching others? All of these will be fun and open up the communication lines, take your time enjoy each step of the journey and only take the train as far as you both want to go. You have a lifetime ahead of you both.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Well the way to go about it is let her lay down the ground rules of what you can do and what you cant do, then what ever you do dont brake them let it go that way untill she starts to feel comfy with you being with other females dont ever push the subject to quick or to far. That way you start of small and you can work your way up to what she feels comfy with you doing to other females trust me i know what im talking about. Me and mrs cns are the same way she ok with me going down on other females and them doing the same to me but the full sex part she is not comfy with. But for me thats ok because i love seeing mrs cns with other guys and girls so for me its easy, but just take things slow and easy and let he make the steps as she feels more comfy with seeing you with other females, but make sure you know all the rules before you start and let her tell she what she is comfy with and what she's not. Follow these simple rules and let the good times roll. mr cns

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    some women just cannot bear the thought of their man having sex with another woman.....theres this 'what if he likes it?' or 'what if shes better than I am?' questioning going on........... but maybe she doesnt see that he also asks the same questions too.... whatever the case may be, you have to let these things progress at their own speed.... you may cross paths with a couple that she feels an instant affinity with, or who she feels she can trust......and they may be the opportunity she needs to move forward comfortably.......its all 'maybes' tho...as nothings ever guaranteed in this game that we play.........

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    We had the similar issues initially and whilst it took a little prying it worked out like you suggested it was because my wife had difficulty seeing me with other women. We went down the path of just getting men around whilst I voyeured. Maybe not everyones cup of tea but I was blown away with how horny I actually got seeing her getting it on with other men. Needless to say Ive been addicted ever since - 20 years down the track wifes still having a ball - I'm still wrapped and other guys are still getting their jollies with her - lifes good here

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    I totally agree with JustEnough and Curious girl.....If she will be jealous do not push it, some people are ok with some are not and some are totally turned on by it. Cam chats and sessions are good to break the ice so to speak....very safe and detached which is probably a good thing for someone whom is unsure. She is right in the way that she mentioned there is always negatives to all decisions and it is a big one to put it out there to get into swinging.....especially being a married couple. I had a look at your pics and she is a beautiful, sexy looking woman and would have no problems if you choose swinging camming or whatever it is that tickles your fancy. Whichever way you go hope it works out...have fun and be safe....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Maybe just maybe she does not want to swing. And if that is the case then if try to "encourage" her you could very easily wreck your relationship. Also I don't think you are understand all aspects of swinging. Most men enter swinging thinking it is going to be great for them, they get to bed all the women they want, truth often is that women get much more attention at swingers events from both other women and men. A lot of men I know through swinging often comment that it was not how they thought it would be, their wives get loads of attention which often causes them to feel jealous - not jealous cause she is fucking someone else but jealous of all the attention she gets. Tread carefully swinging can be the best thing for a solid relationship but it can turn a otherwise fine relationship into a mine field of emotions and second guessing.

  • DonnaBrett

    DonnaBrett

    15 years ago

    Be sure it's what you want too!! Over our many years of swinging we have seen our fair share of flip outs by people who want to try only to find they get jealous....but...in 99% of cases where someone has had an issue...it is the male!!! Generally it's his idea to get into the scene, talks his reluctant wife/girlfriend into it...then when it comes to the crunch..she loves it and can't get enough and he freaks out seeing her with other guys! It seems real life sometimes can't measure up to the fantasy for some guys!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'cnsfelswat'Well the way to go about it is let her lay down the ground rules of what you can do and what you cant do, then what ever you do dont brake them let it go that way untill she starts to feel comfy with you being with other females dont ever push the subject to quick or to far. That way you start of small and you can work your way up to what she feels comfy with you doing to other females trust me i know what im talking about. Me and mrs cns are the same way she ok with me going down on other females and them doing the same to me but the full sex part she is not comfy with. But for me thats ok because i love seeing mrs cns with other guys and girls so for me its easy, but just take things slow and easy and let he make the steps as she feels more comfy with seeing you with other females, but make sure you know all the rules before you start and let her tell she what she is comfy with and what she's not. Follow these simple rules and let the good times roll. mr cns We are exactly the same as 'cnsfelswat'... and agree with what they wrote. I also tend to agree with 'goodgirlssayplz' post aswell... Don't let your cock rule all. (MRS)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    I don't know a thing about ya'all but if you have to talk her into it...maybe you are way more into it than she is, this is a position that should be filled by a volunteer work force and not settled by a union mediator. | If she is in to you...and as you said in her prime, there could be worse fates. Maybe just settle in and enjoy the ride until she says "Hey ya wanna" instead of "Hey I wanna divorce". | ...good luck.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Angelandherman, from what you have said it sounds like your wife hasn't agreed to go swinging with you yet.So what gives with the profile and pics?Does she even know, I hope so for your sake.Cheers Nev...In these instances the boy scout motto is best to be disregarded.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Mrs Surfer decided that she would like a 3sum and with another girl (I will be completely honest and say that I wasnt keen on a bloke joining us). So after many months of looking I found another woman to join us. She was attractive and very keen. She arrived and within 20 mins we were in the bedroom for some of the hottest sex I have ever experienced. It was all going on, girl/girl, boy/girl/girl, girl/boy/girl. It was insane. But then the after effects, there was jealousy, suspicion etc etc. To be honest I wish it had never happened as it almost cost us our relationship. She thought she would be good with it but found out that she wasnt. I thought it wouldnt be a problem but it was. It is an incredibly complex situation to be in an must be navigated carefully. The girl has now mentioned another couple so that she can be focussed on, however, Im not sure this will work either. It may be that some people are just not meant to swing with others.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    well angleandherman i know were she is cumming from coz i was the same way when my man fucked another woman i was upset i was crying i said u enjoyed ur self she was better than me she sucked cock better than me.i never spoke to my hubby 4 a week n didnt even touch him.until i sat back n tho to my self hay wake up its only sex stop this...but what got me was he meet a clp who were meant to cum c us both n he fucked her well i was so angry coz i never meet her or her hubby n that is what got me upset.if i had of meet them i would of b ok with it.i sat at home wondering what was going on.n when my man cum home thats when i got upset.u do get over it its just that 1st step u have to get over.which i have...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Could be too just a bit of fishing...let the lines out check the sonar. | Quoting 'CarlosSpicyWienr' So what gives with the profile and pics? Does she even know... | If not...maybe his is really trying to swap her? With an ass like that. wonder if he would go for a complete set of NIB Star Wars toys... | ...and a good bottle of scotch. | | I'm saving my signed Babe Ruth baseball card until Charlize or Angelina come up.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    If she's not into it , why is her pic on here ..??? does she know her pic is on here..???

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Cuccy6' If she's not into it , why is her pic on here ..??? does she know her pic is on here..??? great question! and if she doesnt know, do you propose to tell her? or can we have her phone number so we can do it for you?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Hey...if there are no other serious bidders, I might want to negotiate on the bottle of scotch. The good stuff costs a fortune even though it's free. | ...and I really do like women, especially with a nice butt.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Yep, I've come across profiles like this before and he always says he is hoping she will swing one day!! Bit suss if you ask meQuoting 'Cuccy6' If she's not into it , why is her pic on here ..??? does she know her pic is on here..???

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    well 40fhotwife you sound like you love other men getting it on with ur wife, would love to join u guys for play

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Cuccy6' If she's not into it , why is her pic on here ..??? does she know her pic is on here..??? Yes and funny enough no pics of him forum post doesn't really seem to fit the profile either which seems to give the impression they are both EQUALLY on here.I think this one is more issues than i am qualified to respond to, someone call the DR!!!Mrs GC

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    You could always try taking your wife out, all dressed up, to a nice place where there's plenty of sharp dressed men. Invite one or two over that she has an eye for, share a few drinks, encourage her, and see if anything progresses naturally. You might be surprised...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Try a bit of role reversal. Imagine that she was trying to talk you into having sex with another man, and follow the discussion through from there. Easy, right?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe'Try a bit of role reversal. Imagine that she was trying to talk you into having sex with another man, and follow the discussion through from there. Easy, right? The OP was suggesting swinging and his wife having a new man and him having a new lady. Where did same sex play man on man or even girl on girl get mentioned? I see the OP and his wife could be doing the web cam sex thingie and even just chatting with couples that all has a place with most couples along their Swingers journey its just how far they stay on the train. Swinging for some couples could be Dinner and evening with great company having a few laughs and a game of strip poker, staying with own partners. We see no alarms with their profile or post. We would suggest to the OP take baby steps and both of them enjoy each one.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'JustEnough'The OP was suggesting swinging and his wife having a new man and him having a new lady. Where did same sex play man on man or even girl on girl get mentioned? Trying to talk someone you love into having sex with another person is disrespectful. If she was trying to talk him into something sexual that he wasn't comfortable with, he likely wouldn't be so cavalier about what he seems to feel are her trite objections to what is a fundamental shift in their sex lives. She's entitled to reject the idea of swinging without guilt or explanation, just as he's entitled to raise it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'JustEnough'The OP was suggesting swinging and his wife having a new man and him having a new lady. Where did same sex play man on man or even girl on girl get mentioned? Trying to talk someone you love into having sex with another person is disrespectful. Normally one partner is hotter on the idea than the other to begin with and with further discussions sharing of fantancies the exciting journey begins together as a couple. The bottom line is that we swing because we love our life mate and don’t want to cheat on him or her. Together we create new sexual adventures and learn to love people together. We grow into sexual freedom together. We swing because, as an activity shared with our primary partner, it creates no dangers to our relationship, which having affairs with singles can do. We swing because it is fun and light. And that is why swinging is a couples sport. Cheating is not a consideration, swinging is so much more fun. OP we strongle urge you to talk with your partner, dont hide it as the consequences could threaten your marrage long term, baby steps and listen to her.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Its a bit strange because I think about (Mr) with other women & gets me right off but in "real life" I would HATE it. (Mr) on the other hand is happy to watch me with other men. I don't think I will ever be able to watch him with another women in real life & i don't suppose your partner will ever be likely to change her mind either. Lucky for me he doesn't want to be with other women anyway............... for now

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    as a female who was initially very jealous and insecure with this i can see where your wife comes from. i gave in eventually cos its something my partner has always been into so figured best way to keep him from straying was to try it out. after going to the club with him a couple of times and i just fooled around with girls i was ready to tell him to do it. when i watched i came to the realisation it was just sex and now i'm totally into it. i guess from my point i think just watching and not joining at first really helped.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Angel's man - As an alternative why not try hotwifing (See outhotwives.org) - She can have her boyfriend but you don't screw other women - delight in her conquests - which can be real hot in itself. It would remove the jealousy argument (for her).RegardsMr. SR.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    It's what is known as trust in a relationshp alot of people never really discus swinging before trying , my wife was so jealous of another woman even when we first started couldn't even have a woman cuddle me , that was until a good friend and was one of our mmf friends aswell whom has since passed away suggested to my wife maybe if he introduced another female in with our sessions that would take her mind off her doubting thoughts of another woman with me , as my wife was so infatutaed with him she was almost ready to leave me for him , but our love was strong and he said who is your Phil going home with and how many guys did she have sex with at a party , my wife has since found out that yes we have a great times at a swinging party with more than 1 couple , single male or female we go home together and finish the night off with more sensual hours of sex , we have been swinging over 20 years on and off we have no secrets and that is the strongest part in a relationship .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Hubby and I did this for a few years and it was fun.Initially I was reluctant as I felt it might harm our relationship and that hubby would get jealous.I definitely did not want to see my guy with another woman.We worked it out and laid out ground rules that worked for us both and it really was fun.Just be very selective about your partners and be honest with each otehr.If you don't want to do then DON'T DO IT!Sarah x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Am i pushing so hard for this because i feel that i won't be able to keep it in my pants if i don't or i genuinely want to compliment our relationship?

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'whitie12' Have you been to a swing club? Would she just to watch? Watch serious movies on the subject plus porn on swinging? Have you tried cam sex? with other couples? Read books by people who are in the lifestyle and have been for years? Soft swing, just watching others?   All of these will be fun and open up the communication lines, take your time enjoy each step of the journey and only take the train as far as you both want to go.   You have a lifetime ahead of you both. very helpful, its in the go stage,

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    IF you force her in to it, she will hate you forever and it could wreck your marriage. Had a few offers for 3 ways and swinging while in the military (you can get busted and kicked out of the military for that), and while it sounded appealing, i avoided it like the plague and I knew my wifes views about it, even talking about it would piss her off and it would be no sex for a week.So just make sure that she is completely for it and doesnt do it just to please you.you will regret it. I have seen a few families and couples lives destroyed by it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    IF you force her in to it, she will hate you forever and it could wreck your marriage. Had a few offers for 3 ways and swinging while in the military (you can get busted and kicked out of the military for that), and while it sounded appealing, i avoided it like the plague and I knew my wifes views about it, even talking about it would piss her off and it would be no sex for a week.So just make sure that she is completely for it and doesnt do it just to please you.you will regret it. I have seen a few families and couples lives destroyed by it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    ... not so much a question of "Will my partner enjoy another more than me?" but "Can I trust him/her not to hurt me?" For a couple, it's also about equality - an equal share in the decisions - and about letting go of the old-fashioned hang-ups about possession and who belongs to who by right of whatever ceremony they went through a few years back. If you can't meet the criteria of trust, equality and letting go, you perhaps ought not to be on RHP.In our naughty past we have encountered more than one couple where it was clear that one partner was driving the whole idea of swinging and the other was obviously unsure or just plain reluctant. We have always backed away under such circumstances, and we've never regretted doing so.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Not having done it myself but you both have to be comfortable with it and be able to put aside all the emotional aspects and make it all about the physical experience. The big question is are you confident within yourself not to become jealous. Its one thing saying it but completely another when another male is giving your partner a lot of attention and she starts enjoying it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Unless both are open to the idea of swinging I personally wouldn't understand why you would join a swingers site. If she agreed to sign up but still has reservations, I personally think it's perfectly normal.Some times in life you can't assess until you experience. When it comes to trust and jealousy I also believe some people need to step outside their comfort zones to fully realise what they're capable of.Always move at the speed of the most apprehensive partner I say. And personally I think there is far more available than wife swapping. Joining just so you can 'swap' your wife sexually is a bit forward especially if she isn't 100% into it.Slow and steady.MrsSplicey

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Off the subject for a second ... How dissapointed I was I reading The foxtel channel guide when I realized the show "wife swap" Wasn't quite as it suggested !!!!! Lol I can relate to this ... My ex had the same dramas was fine with other Men when it came to another girl was great during everyone enjoying themselves Then once finished followed by extreme bout of jealousy and a panic attack .. Then totally diff with mrs 2ezee thank god ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Is she interested in women at all? If she comes around maybe start with you too and another guy so she gets all of the attention. Rules like "no kissing" or "no sex" may also help- just focus on touching/ oral etc. you could also start out playing with another couple in the room but sticking to your own partners. My boyfriend and I play because it is something we as a couple can enjoy- its not about sleeping with different people, it's about having fun together and with other people. Maybe find someone you are both interested and let your girl chat to the female of the other couple? So she can feel in control and get to know the other people and set her own rules and boundaries. Good luck xx :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    At this very moment while I am overseas my gf is meeting with a new couple we've been chatting to. I'm just happy that she is having fun and enjoying herself. Just before I left to go overseas we had a very hot and horny night with another very sexy lady. Next week when I'm home we will meet her again as well as the couple she's with tonight. Lucky me. The main thing is that when we play together we both know that as we curl up together to go to sleep afterwards that each of us is the most important to the other. We both encourage each other to play with others when we are not together ( I spend about 6mths of the yr away for work). We both want the other to have a fun and fullfilled life. I know that we have a pretty unique relationship but the main thing is that no matter how much fun we have with others, we're still each others number one and reinforce that regularly

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    in three different relationships have had my woman keen for swinging swapping ffm fmf and fuck me if months later theyve all brought up shit and carried on so many people say they can handle it but turn out to be emotionally stunted and unable to see the difference between sex and love

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    The way I got my wife into it was 3 somes with my mate. I wanted a 3 some with another woman involved. She is not into woman and I am allowed to meet up with them and she prefer my to enjoy the fruits at ours. We have been to a few private swinging parties where we both go together and if we meet somone we like we play and we are both happy and fully trust each other. If yours is not happy and you can't convince her dont do it.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'DonnaBrett' Be sure it's what you want too!! Over our many years of swinging we have seen our fair share of flip outs by people who want to try only to find they get jealous....but...in 99% of cases where someone has had an issue...it is the male!!! Generally it's his idea to get into the scene, talks his reluctant wife/girlfriend into it...then when it comes to the crunch..she loves it and can't get enough and he freaks out seeing her with other guys! It seems real life sometimes can't measure up to the fantasy for some guys!