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What's Love Got To Do With it

March 04 2017

I know this is a hook upsight but I've been blown away by a lot of the beautifully open posts on this site. Got me wondering, what's love all about? Has it become an antiquated notion, tossed in the too hard basket? What does love mean to you? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I love beer 🍻

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I think people have learnt to live a full(er) life without the expectation or the white picket fence.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Love is complete acceptance - When we allow someone to be exactly as they are, without any belief that they aren’t good enough, without any belief that they would be “better” if they were different, this is love. Love is completely unconditional - Love has no conditions. When we truly love someone, we can’t stop loving them, regardless of what they do or say. If our love is dependent upon the other person acting and speaking how we want, then this love is completely conditional. We often confuse this to be love, but this is just positive thoughts about someone. This is just loving what a person says or does, not loving them. Positive thoughts or the thought “I love you” isn’t necessary to love. Sometimes it even gets in the way. Love is selfless - True love doesn’t want anything in return, because there is nothing it needs. We just love for the sake of love. When we love someone, we don’t look for them to fill our needs, love us back, and all those types of things. If that is what we are looking for, then we are just using the other person. What is the meaning of love? Love is completely selfless. Best....... CM

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    "Love is complete acceptance - When we allow someone to be exactly as they are, without any belief that they aren’t good enough, without any belief that they would be “better” if they were different, this is love" 👍👌 This for me, is the most crucial thing. My last 'love', how to put this, I felt he wanted me to be better, always asking about my size? Stuff like that. For shit sake, I'm only small and fit, but not good enough for him. I loved him unconditionally, but felt he just wasn't that into me. Had I continued, I would have always felt inadequate, and that's not love. In the back of my mind, I was thinking about all the men in here and in RL who would would love to have the opportunity, and who would appreciate me. How thin did he want me to be?? I'm not turning anorexic for any guy. Sometimes they need to look at what's right in front of them, instead of always chasing something better. Wake up and smell the roses, was my thought, and just 'love'. Nicely put 😃

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Good question LFF... been thinking about this a lot too lately. I have the vision to love people and see the good in them. Sometimes my emotions and stubbornness get in the way, but usually I will realise after and apologise for any negative behaviour. I'm not perfect and I have my own demons to fight 😋 But when I'm happy, I want to encourage people to be their best selves. If one day I need support I know that they will be there for me and I won't be too much of a burden... I just need a reminder from them - who I am and how to smile again. When I don't get along with someone or share similar views, we agree to disagree, but we respect our differences. Intimate love, however is still very confusing to me. Giving your love generously to someone is a very big task, but sometimes seems effortless. Even though sometimes I can't help getting love and lust confused, I still wear my heart on my sleeve and enjoy the ride while it lasts. How much can you accept about a person and how much of our own weight can we hold? I am unsure if I like the person I become in a relationship or whether it's seeing incompatibilities with the other that makes it hard to stay, yet I miss the intimacy, company and special bond we create. I do until I don't. The don't part is the hard part to distinguish and the hardest part to resolve. I still respect and care about the person and that is love. But being in love is hard to maintain. Given if the other person reels me back in, I probably do stay and work it out. I don't want to leave sometimes, but I feel like I get pushed further away or we drift apart. Maybe it's these same patterns I need to break out of. Maybe I have expected too much from my partner in the past and not appreciated enough. This is something I've learnt in order to be happy. It's hard to do, when you feel simple things don't make enough impact 😳 I believe that happiness comes in the little things and the lots of little things someone does for you can all add up. I actually like being challenged a bit, when there is a bit of friction there and makes me realise my actions or my words. I actually feel closer to those people who are willing to be honest with me. It's like a harsher form of telling me I have lettuce stuck in my teeth, so I don't walk around looking like an idiot hahaha - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Love is about seeing, accepting, and appreciating who the other person is. It's about acknowledging and honouring all of the parts of them - passions, ideas, and everything that makes them who they are. I'm so glad I've managed to "hook up" on here with someone who I can feel this way about, and who sees me the same way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    100% - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ...is a feeling, an emotion I've experienced on rare occasions in my life. I wont go into love for family here, which is a different kind of love, but instead the kind of love that is focussed on another, always a woman so far. It's a feeling that must be based in the mind, but yet, it's effects can be felt in the rest of the body too. Strangely...from tingly, goosebump feelings to actual nausea and reflexive dry retching when its confirmed that it will end...that it wont be reciprocated. It takes away rational thoughts and makes a joke of things like "common sense." It takes away control. But for all the less desirable effects it can have, id never promise myself to not try it again. It's the best drug there is.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    that50zguy mmmm you love your beer and i love my jack but for me i do not believe in love but that just me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    at times, hard to live without , and at times, hard to live with. I'm not articulate so I will share with you what I feel about love, written by those, more eloquent than me. "Do you still love him ? No but I love the memory of him" - Anon "I fell in love with the way you touched me, without using your hands" - Anon "You're still my person, even if I am not yours" - A line from Greys Anatomy "And then my soul saw you and said "Oh there you are, I've been looking for you " - Anon "He loved her of course, but better than that, he chose her, day after day. Choice, that was the thing" - Sherman Alexie "You didn't love her. You just didn't want to be alone, Or maybe she was good for your ego. Or maybe she made you feel better about your miserable life, but you didn't love her. Because you don't destroy the people you love" - a line from Greys Anatomy "I love you for all that you are, all that you have been and all that you're yet to be" - Anon "The most painful thing, about unexpressed love is that it never fades away" - Anon "Some great love stories, are about people who appear in your life, who take you on a magnificent ride, open you eyes to possibilities you did not know existed and then leave. Or get left. " - a reviewer writing about the movie " La La Land" My fav... " I hope someday when I am gone, someone, somewhere, picks up my soul off these pages and thinks " I would have loved her" - Nicole Lyons

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have been truly ,madly ,deeply in love twice in my life.It's only now that I realise,35 years later,that wasn't the case for him.We were together for nine years ,eventually my love for him died and I left. I have never experienced being loved by a partner but I do have the love of family and friends which I am grateful for. Yes it would be nice to find love ,someone who reciprocates those feelings,but it is not essential to my happiness. A few years ago I connected with a man I met on here,but the reality was far from what I was expecting ..a total disaster for both of us.It taught me to not invest emotionally in anyone until you meet them in RL. Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yes, I think people are disillusioned about love these days. Online dating makes it too easy to have casual sex and no one feels that they have to put in any effort or date as such. The young ones have Tinder and so meeting up to go to the cinema or for dinner doesnt have to happen. Which is a shame. What Im trying to say is that the expectancy of finding love isn't there or even wanted. And even in these accepting times, guys still want the nice girl to settle down with eventually. Not the girl off RHP or other sites who are enjoying their sexuality. Its rubbish of course because to have a good relationship you must be sexually compatible. I believe in finding that person. Whether you are looking for love or not, it can rise up and hit you in the face when you dont expect it. Serendipity.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ...it can lift you up to the highest heavens one minute when you are both high on it; and send you crashing down to the pits the minute one or both decides they are no longer "in love". Got me wondering, what's love all about? - To me, (romantic) love is about choosing to be together, committing to staying together, in good times when joy, laughter and bliss are abundant or overflowing, and in bad times when it's angst-filled, frustrating, tedious and difficult. Love means putting the other person's needs above self, both parties adopting this mantra, so that no one feels that they are giving / sacrificing more than the other - both are equals in giving and receiving. When disagreements exist, both are able to lay their cards on the table and speak freely, knowing that they won't be blamed / accused / shouted at but that love will pave the path towards a mutually beneficial compromise. Love means that the other person never gives up on you and walks away, but rather, they will stay to face tough issues with you and they are keen to roll up their sleeves and work alongside you to fix difficult situations. Love means that if one is doing something that inadvertently pisses off the other, they are lovingly told about it and they are happy to be given an opportunity to remove the irritating habit / attitude / behaviour because both place the other's comfort and happiness as a priority. Love means that sometimes, one gives more than the other, sometimes one receives more than the other, but no one is keeping count to use as "ammunition" during a disagreement. Love makes one believe that "Honey, your happiness and wellbeing is of paramount importance to me! Everything I say or do is for your welfare and our mutual benefit." Trust, Honesty, Perseverance and Integrity are essential bedfellows of Love. Has it become an antiquated notion, tossed in the too hard basket? - No...but it has become harder and harder to find the rare person who believes in the same pure concept of Love these days. People are generally becoming more selfish, narcissistic, impatient, and too quick to give up and walk away. Others have absolutely no qualms, no guilt, no conscience whatsoever about lying and faking their "love" to someone when they know that all they want is a tryst / a short affair and then *poof!* they make their quick and sudden exit, leaving broken hearts and shattered ego's in their wake. The egocentricity of this period is unparalleled ... it's all about I, Me and Mine these days. "You aren't giving me what I want / You aren't fulfilling my needs / I want more than you can give... Bye, I'm gone!" There's very little consideration for the other person's feelings anymore. It has become rare because the "good old values" that our grandparents' generation upheld, that included less selfish values like staying to ride the rough tides when things go wrong in a relationship, patience to ride the rough times out, the time frame for giving the other party a fair chance, etc... that has mostly been trampled on and ground to fine dust. If children aren't raised with those values, and they don't watch their own parents living and demonstrating Love, what are the chances of them breaking out of the cycle and living differently when they know no better? The spiral downwards perpetuates... What does love mean to you? - There are many different types of Love and Greek philosophy categorised it pretty well. Romantic love between a man and a woman means to me that there is mutual fondness, adoration and devotion, grounded by a commitment to do what is within one's means to make the other happy and comfortable. Tough issues will be dealt with together, "we can make this work!", and both are willing to roll up their sleeves, bunker down and go through rough times together, United in body, mind and spirit, surrounded with mutual goodwill and camaraderie. Love means knowing that whilst one can easily get away undetected with a clandestine affair, one won't simply because one won't even fathom doing anything that will hurt the other. Love also means that when one really wants to leave after giving the relationship lots of opportunities at several fair goes, one does it honestly and frankly, leaving no questions unanswered and not leaving the other party totally clueless as to what happened. Knowing why can help the other party improve themselves and prevent them from descending into a hopeless loop where they lose all shreds of self-esteem and have to crawl out of a deeper crater than necessary. There is breaking up after both have tried amicably to make things work, and breaking up where one is completely taken by surprise and is in shock.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    An emotion you have no control over that can totally control your life. Causes ecstasy and can cause pain. I have love. I have no control

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Sorry for the short post. Seems all the book writers are onto this topic. Feeling inferior.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    In our grandparents day it was not romantic as such but necessary, women didn't work much for many reasons mostly patriarchal, these days we have more freedom, look at the divorce rate, who wants to be raked over those coals ? I think their is plenty of love around it's just wearing a different face.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I want to be in love, I want to love someone and be loved back, and I want to believe in love. But until that happens, I'll take good, hard and rough sex from a FWB, just to remind myself that I'm alive!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Sing it, Tina... You must understand Though the touch of your hand Makes my pulse react That it's only the thrill Of boy meeting girl Opposites attract It's physical Only logical You must try to ignore That it means more than that Oh what's love got to do, got to do with it What's love but a second hand emotion What's love got to do, got to do with it Who needs a heart When a heart can be broken It may seem to you That I'm acting confused When you're close to me If I tend to look dazed I've read it someplace I've got cause to be There's a name for it There's a phrase that fits But whatever the reason You do it for me I've been taking on a new direction But I have to say I've been thinking about my own protection It scares me to feel this way What's love got to do, got to do with it What's love but a sweet old fashioned notion What's love got to do, got to do with it Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken Aighty then...nice tune. Don't ask for more, there is a very soppy line from the very soppy movie ''Love Story'' that would be a natural segue into this topic. No, not from me. Best....... CM

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Abracadabra I heat up, I can't cool downYou got me spinning'Round and 'round'Round and 'round and 'round it goesWhere it stops nobody knows Every time you call my nameI heat up like a burning flameBurning flame full of desireKiss me baby, let the fire get higher Abra abracadabraI wanna reach out and grab yaAbracadabraAbracadabra You make me hot, you make me sighYou make me laugh, you make me cryKeep me burning for your loveWith the touch of a velvet glove Abra abracadabraI wanna reach out and grab yaAbracadabraAbracadabra I feel the magic in your caressI feel magic when I touch your dressSilk and satin, leather and laceBlack panties with an angel's face I see magic in your eyesI hear the magic in your sighsJust when I think I'm gonna get awayI hear those words that you always say Abra abracadabraI wanna reach out and grab yaAbracadabraAbracadabra Every time you call my nameI heat up like a burning flameBurning flame full of desireKiss me baby, let the fire get higher I heat up, I can't cool downMy situation goes 'round and 'roundI heat up, I can't cool downMy situation goes 'round and 'roundI heat up, I can't cool downMy situation goes 'round and 'round Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Don't live here anymore! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • GM4funxxx

    GM4funxxx

    9 years ago

    I am probably wrong and happy to be shot down in flames, BUT I always thought it was lust that drives us and hopefully love may follow. For how long though is never a given. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I love Steve Miller Band. A very hot bf introduced me to their music when I was about 19 or 20. Awesome and great memories 👍 I do wonder whatever happened to him, how his life turned out 😯

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    still want to apologize for throwing up out the wibdow of your car that night dude 😀 sorry about that 😊

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Typos 😀

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    wasn't the worst part of the story. I have no recollection, aside from what you told me. I did go back the following week to apologise to the hotel manager for locking myself in the toilet, and passing out 😀 charming So what happened to you. Did you get married and have kids? Oops sorry I'm off topic. I loved him and was devastated when he dumped me. But I would have dumped me too 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' Sorry for the short post. Seems all the book writers are onto this topic. Feeling inferior....... Steady on!I made a point of not writing an epic on this topic..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Im with FlyGirlC on this one. I tend to love many people, but in different ways. To me love means a deep respect of that person. In essence, it is a word that makes it easy to describe respect, compassion, empathy, a desire to be with, relate to and share with another person (or animal as the case may sometimes be). To me, love is not necessarily related to sex. I love many people that I do not wish to have sex with.

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    A topic exciting both yearning and fear. I've loved once to a man I was once engaged to but it didn't work out as I chose to have a career over being in a relationship. I thought that at that moment in time, it would limit my career path and accepting an overseas posting to further my career. we parted ways but we truly connected - mentally sexually and emotionally. It was almost perfect but I didn't know better. I was young and stupid and ambitious. Anyway I got married to another man, separated, had other long and short term relationships but never have I felt loved as much as with my ex-fiance. I yearn for that love and may never find it. I still have lots of things to do in my life but I'm ready to form a loving relationship if I find him, here or real life. I can see love in my future. Why not. But my definition of love is different from everyone else. It's a mix of romantic notions, friendship and practical cooperation in helping each other thru life's struggles. So I'll wait and keep busy. Having fwbs is great because for that slice in time, I'm being loved by the man I'm with. That to me will suffice.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    means something you shouldn't be feeling sometimes

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    A gorgeous friend here has found love recently after a painful separation that left her starting from scratch. She is one of the kindest, most positive and strongest person I know. they seem very happy and it also fills me with joy seeing her and her beau happy. It gives me hope that I will be able to find love again, like she has. We all deserved to be loved in our own terms, conventional or not. I do. 😘