Transgenders

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  I don't know if this is the answer but maybe when they are referring to their own sexuality they are referring to the sexuality of the person they are attracted to not the genitals .... meaning they are attracted to female sexuality therefore these straight men are attracted transgender persons who identify with female sexuality but have male genitals. mrs scc

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  My theory is ( and I am a man) that all straight men are both homophobes and curious about playing with a cock and the trangender thing is a back door way (excuse the pun) of exploring this with out considering your self really bi or homosexual

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  I know a few transgendered people, of both sexes, and MtF transfolk are most definitely not just cocks in frocks. They are women who just happen to be in the wrong body. Some are on different locations on their paths to transition, however they don't identify as the gender they were born with and actually feel wrong presenting as that gender. Most MtF transgendered people who still have one, don't even use the bit of flesh that would be a penis on a male as a cock.I'm happy to be corrected here by the way. But a transgendered person isn't a transvestite/cross-dresser.

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  OK, I am actually quite knowledgeable on the subject. I ordinarily wouldn’t buy in to this sort of topic, however ‘cocks in frocks’ really offended me … not so much for myself, but for some of the transgender members here. For me to answer this question accurately, I would need quite a few pages, however I will try and be brief. I am female. I also happen to have an extraneous Y chromosome (XXY Intersexed) and was raised as a male. Nobody sought my permission to raise me as a male, and when I started developing hips, breasts and becoming a woman during puberty, my parents took it upon themselves to take me off to the doctor for ‘vitamins’, which turned out to be testosterone shots. Over the course of two years of these ‘vitamins’, I became male. And a significant proportion of me died inside. I had a very hard life by anyone’s account. I was raped and tortured, because I was different, by a close relative from the age of 9 until 15. I was raped again by a man when I attempted to ‘transition’ back to my original gender at 18. I decided living as a female, after the rape, was too dangerous, so I lived a significant proportion of my life as a man. Oh, I wasn’t very good at it, though! Anyway. Now, I believe, I am blessed with the ability to help people in my situation. I volunteer for a young people’s LGBT support service. I met a young intersexed person there who was raised as a girl, and miraculously turned into a boy when she reached puberty. When HE expressed his desire to live as a boy, his parents kicked him out of home. He lived on the streets in the Valley for quite some time. I have enormous respect for him, he is a wonderful human being, who acts very male, looks very male, but happens to have a vagina, with some testicles internally (in place of his ovaries) that produce testosterone. When I ‘transitioned’ from male to female, every one of my specialists said to me ‘wow, Paula, you must feel amazing now … all of your systems are designed to work with appropriate levels of estrogens and progestins …’. They were right. I felt healthy for the first time in my life. The thing is, I agree with you to some extend, and I very concerned that because of this I may be seen by some people as something of a bigot against people just like me. I have trouble reconciling that some men, who identify as cross dressers or transgendered women, who have been in long term relationships as men and then announce one day that they feel female to their partners. One of the most common complaints of wives and partners in this situation is they fail to adopt any of the ‘traditional’ female roles when doing so. Me? I desperately want a baby. I take primary responsibility for the housework and I very much love to cook, bake, and generally take on a very maternal role. I was also recently discriminated against by our State’s primary transgender ‘support’ association because I am intersexed. I did pro bono work for them (supported them by doing design and copywriting work for free, and provided them with one of my paintings to auction off to raise money) and became too busy to do the work anymore. The ‘women’ who run this service said, and I paraphrase a little, ‘Well all you f***ing intersex bitches are the same. You think you’re better than us. You have a reason to be a woman. We’ll make sure you don’t get support from the gender clinic anymore if you don’t do this work anymore’. If you ask me, they behaved like men with a very big chip on their shoulder. Some of my family and extended family call me ‘it’ and refuse to associate with me. Sure, they are redneck bigots, but it does hurt me. Mind you, some of the time, I feel like I have an easy time of it. I get whistled at by guys (my girlfriends agree, it’s a double edged sword … kinda sexist and gross but also flattering) and I get hit on by girls and guys. Having said all of this, you possibly are referring to the same people that I have issues with. Also, common acceptance guidelines tell me that if you identify as a Marsian, I should respect that and call you a Marsian. I apologise for the lengthy response, and I’ll leave you with one of my favourite quotes from Working Girl, an 80s film staring Melanie Griffith. ‘Sometimes I sing and dance around the house in my underwear. Doesn’t make me Madonna. Never will.’ Oh, poop. Hang on, then the character who says this gets proven wrong. This topic is a MINEFIELD. Much love and happy thoughts, Paula J

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  I understood everything you said...Intersex is not what I was asking about...It is the very people who give you and many others a hard time! I had a relative in my family who was like you...but alas...she wasn't strong enough to keep living her life! What I said wasn't meant to be a put down or was meant to upset anyone...I used that term as that is what I hear many call themselves...I was wondering about how the straight men see themselves like this as I have seen in life and in the chatrooms where the TG's state they are not interested in straight men and have brought up the very same subject. I do not call Post Op TG's...I call them women!! I do not call people born with Ambiguous genitalia anything other than how they introduce themselves to me. (IE: If you told me your name was "John" that is how I would address you....If you walked up and said your name was "Melanie" that is how I would address you. The funniest thing is within ones own circle, we all call each other what we want to (in ANY circle) .. but once someone else calls them that particular name...all hell breaks loose. Same with race...they are allowed to call each other a certain thing...but God help anyone else that dare call them that name. And your past hit a very deep chord with me as I too was attacked in my younger life but by many relatives both male and female...and also raped in adult life ... but my past is my past and there is nothing I can do to change it...As my favourite saying goes "If you keep looking back, all you get is a sore neck"! Look ahead in life and do want you want to do..."Live Life"!! People do not accept people for not only sexuality, but because of colour of skin or religion and many other reasons...I just say, be proud of who you are now..as the now is all that counts!! Hope this makes sense to you. My thoughts with you and your partner to live a happy wonderous life together xox

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  RHP User

  16 years ago

  Thanks for sharing your life so openly and honestly Paula. For me, a cock in a frock is a guy who likes to wear skirts. There's a lot of those. The trannies I've met are genuinely feminine or masculine even if their genitals don't confirm their disposition. It complicates things more when you come to understand that a persons sexual identity doesn't dictate their sexuality. I like countrycouple's thoughtful response. Straight guys are attracted to all the feminine attributes. It's simple, positively definitive and not in the least offensive. Hugs Stalky

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  SassyRascal

  16 years ago

  Based on what the profile says........ If a man says he is after Women, Couples, TG, TS,TV well i automatically assume he is just as interested in men as women! There are many many men who state this on there profile so as a straight woman looking for a straight man, no offense but im assuming you are dead set keen on both sexes n good luck to you!!!!!!! Sweet Frangapani xxxx

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