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August 06 2010

Ok, so I am not 100% sure how to vent this frustration with out a heap of you all chanting "Diddums" but what I want to know is this.....Let me begin with a back story :)We meet men in clubs and at parties (of the swingy type) and they will come up to us and then say to Andy "Is it ok if your wife sucks my cock?" We will chat and cam and Andy will be complimented on how hot his woman is. We will receive messages here from males and they will add," by the way Andy your girlfriend is hot"So sure, this is nice, people find me attractive. I like that :P What I do not like is them directing their compliments to Andy when I am right there, asking Andy's permission when I am right there!!! I am perfectly capable of speaking for my self and I am not Andy's possession, so do not compliment me like you would if I were his car, or as though I am his prize winning pig. Do not ask Andy for permission to speak to me or touch me or play with me, because he probably wont mind but I am the one that decides for myself.Do other women in couples find this happens to them? What do you think of it? Am I being reasonable in my frustration or should I just be accepting gracefully the compliment any way I get it? It just does not seem like a compliment to me when I am bypassed like this. Men out there, have I taken this the wrong way, is it you just trying to be respectful of the fact that Andy is there too and you do not want him to feel like you are ignoring the fact I am a part of a couple?So many questions in one post. Answer away, I am genuinely interested.xx Salina

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  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Just kidding Sal, you're hot hope you're happy :P

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Salina We have had similar experiences with guys. From a male perspective, its a sign of respect being show to your partner. I can honestly say that I have not thought about it from your perspective much to my own shame but I believe that it is not intended to disrespect you or minimize you individuality or your right to choose. I for one have done the same thing to make sure that the male was ok with things as I don't want to be causing problems. Thank you for giving me an insight to the other side of the equasion it is food for thought and something I will be more aware of in the future

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    hahaha... I laugh when I see that happening Sal.... it tickles all kinds of questions relating to empowerment, independence and basic human rights..... but i think it's just an innocent brotherhood thing... you know like asking permission from the newly wed husband to kiss the bride... only.. errrr... more personal. :p More over.... it is more likely to be a naturally instinctive self preservation measure.... I mean.. who in this game... can say that they haven't sensed the potential for being chased off by a jeolous husband! You're woman is such a honey, Andy! Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I think you have taken it the wrong way Sal. You just cant go hitting on someones wife/girlfriend without knowing how their parnter feels about it. You guys know the deal between you's but the other bloke doesn't. Thats why they run it by Andy first to suss out the situation, see how he's feeling about it. It's a bloke to bloke thing, probably a bit of male respect to one another thing to. Its hard to explain, i cant think with a foggy brain (too many beers last night) but do you get my drift Mr easy

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    As written by Mrs Wilko cause he's too slow to type: Apparently, at regular non-swingy type functions, the amount you can flirt with another guys missus (his words, not mine), depends on the reaction of her other half. So if he's out and she's flirting with him, he will naturally flirt back, but be constantly monitoring the reactions of the partner to see how far he can go without fisticuffs (my words not his, lol). So Mr Wilko thought that the behaviour Sal is experiencing is a throwback to that type of scenario where it's not really ok to shag somone elses missus. I totally get your frustration Sal, but I'm not sure it will ever stop as the guys are just being polite and cautious with Andy around. Mrs W xx

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Hi Sal we have seen this before and i(from the male perspective) do see it a respect to the husband to ask first because some men just asume they can have sex with any wife they want because the husband can't satisfy her and now single male is here to do that job and completly ignores the husband . so when guys ask " do you mind if i sex with your wife" i find it polite and for which i reply " it's ok with me but best ask her" as i now my wife makes her own decisions and then if he continues to talk through me to her i know it's all of for her as she also likes respect. Hope that helps ?

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    As you see in my post, I did consider the fact the men are intending to be respectful toward Andy. It is the being talked about while I am right there thing that I am getting at. I am standing right there!!! LOl.Your feedback is taken on board, my feminine mind has gone and complicated something really rather basic and quite considerate really :P I guess for me, I would prefer if it were said to Andy, "do you mind if I ask your missus". So there we would have Andy's permission to flirt and me having the right to decide if i want to be flirted with :)bahaha, you know what? after this post and Andy's last one nobody will say or do anything. Lol, You will all be sitting there shaking your heads thinking Damm, these two are hard work!!!!!! xx Salina

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Oh gawd not another SalAndy post, haven't we talked about ourselves enough all ready? YAWNNNFor a start I totally agree with this batch of responses. I remember once when I was in London I had a flatmate, she and I use to go outside and have a Fag and a chat - Did I mention she looked a little bit like Cameron Diaz. Anyway the amount of times guys would come up to hit on her, it was well - insulting. I kept saying, 'but i could be your boyfriend, that's so bloody disrespectful.' she of course would smile and blow smoke in my eyes. I think this comes back to the time, when Salina's husband was complemented by a bloke at work, he said 'mate you've got the perfect life, great, job, nice kids and a gorgeous wife.' Of course I destroyed all that, cause I'm a bastard. But I think the word Trophy has been banded around a little and now Sal's got a chip on her shoulder about it. She's not a trophy, you can't just put baby in the corner of the pool room to look at. Certainly there is no mute button, and she does have a slap that will make me see stars for a few seconds, (when she catches me :P ) Guys, I don't have a problem with you seeking the green light, just do it discretely so as to not to disturb the sleeping beauty within. Oh and there was another time when a guy gave salina a kiss on the cheek and whispered something sexy to her, he tried to stir her away from me, even just for a moment. I heard and it wasn't cool. So yeah, watch out blokes, keep you hands above the table until you know the score :P P.S And yes I did sleep with my flatmate who looked like Cameron Diaz. :P

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I kind of know what you mean but then at the same point I found myself doing the same last weekend.. ie asking for permission to play with another persons partner rather then the actual person I wanted play with. Some back sorry might help here we have a couple that we have done a few swaps with and my husband has taken out and to dinner and played with the female of the this couple on her own while her husband was away for work. So I asked her if I could play with him one time like she had with my husband - not just swap for sex but actually have like a date and then a fuck. I think it is only polite to ask the partner. Compliments are another thing - some women don't take compliments well therefore a easy way to give them is to give an indirect compliment "you girlfiend is so hot" while she is in earshot. Also maybe these compliments are not meant for you but for Andy almost lke saying "well you must be a really great guy if you have a girlfriend like that."Just take the compliment Salina anyway it comes.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Hell Andy.................... I think your as cute as............... and totally edible...........may I Sal ??

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I reckon they should ask the male if he is ok with them hitting on his missus...then ask HER if it's ok.The relationship is between 2...so both should be consulted...and both should agree....or disagree.JMO...BJxxx

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    We have been partners for 12 years and married for 10. The way my Wife and I look at it is that if people realise we are a couple we appreciate them asking me first or and if I like the look of them I imediately say it is up to her and she makes the desision as to what she wants to do and vice versa. We never seperate and even if is a matter of me being in the same room and not getting involved we both insist that we stay together out of respect to eachother. We have had many partners each since we havealways been together and always give eachother the respect and ask if either of us mind if one or the other gets involved with other people so if the desision is made first by one or the other it is the same result. If we don't both agree it just dosen't happen. It works for us. G&K

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Interesting question really and to be totally honest one that we have not experienced at all, that of males asking Gazz's permission to play with Sheba or directing compliments regarding Sheba to Gazz.Had never really thought of it until we read this post either (no offence) so now we are wondering what, why (or why not - lol) and can only surmise but maybe our age plays a part as well.Sorry we can't help in that aspect but by the age statement we mean that you pics so a very attractive lady, far younger than us and maybe there are many people who are yet to realise that a female may be at a function of this nature for her enjoyment and not because she was forced. Sorry, not really helpful but we will keep an eye open now, you have us thinking.Shebagazz

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    For me its a respect thing. When a guy acknowledges that we are a couple and as such checks with me (MR SRFUN) if I am ok with them approaching MRSRFUN I find that respectful. To play or not is totally up to her. Many guys, girls and even some couples seem to ignore the fact that we are a couple and i find that just a little rude. I do agree however, Sal that if a guy was to be so blunt as to ask me the way you have described in front of MRS SRFUN then he is probably a trogladite male chauvinist and a dud root to boot. So give them the flick, lets face it attractive confident women like you and MRS SRFUN have plenty of offers to choose from just understand some guys are just trying to respect that you are part of a couple and just might be stumbling over the correct way to approach that but even if I am wrong just use it as one of those filters you have in assessing the many offers that I am sure a hotty like you get. MR SRFUN

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'MissBJ'I reckon they should ask the male if he is ok with them hitting on his missus...then ask HER if it's ok.The relationship is between 2...so both should be consulted...and both should agree....or disagree.JMO...BJxxx I think its the other way around, I think he should ask her if she is interested. . . . .and then ask Andy or leave Salina to tell Andy what is happening. Salina, I think you are dealing with an age old concept of women as property and you have every right to feel annoyed by it. Cheers WTG

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Being a shy Taipan what are the rules here ? It sounds like a barn dance where you walk across the room and ask for a dance .or was that a head job !

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Could they actually be complimentaing Andy on his suberb taste and it has nothing to do with Sal? Kisses Focus

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Um, for your contribution :P FYI...no chip on my shoulder thanks, honey and you know, women have never said to me, "Do you mind if I sit next to Andy?" or "Do you mind if I touch Andy". Since you are being such an arse I now demand that they do or they do not have permission to touch you, my possession until they have done so!!!!! That will learn you.....and blow your last post and it's plea for more attention right out the water!!!!!! How do you like them apples!!!!Ok, here is an example....Andy and I at a swingers club chatting away to each other, playing up to the cam, man walks in introduces himself to Andy and then says (keep in mind I am sitting next to Andy) "Do you mind if your mind if your missus sucks my cock?" Of course Andy replied with, " I don't mind, but Sal might." He could see the look on my face and it gave Andy a great giggle because he knew it wound me up.As I said before, and to answer your question Taipan, I understand the show of respect to Andy (who wont ask any man if its ok to touch your wife if he has one btw) but the best solution would be to ask Andy permission to ask me, that way Andy is respected and I am :)Andy, you have called me a trophy and told me I have a chip on my shoulder and I have no idea what my ex has to do with any of this????? Your flat mate looks nothing like Cameron Diaz! She has a wonky fringe and huge nose and people probably bypassed you to talk to her because they could see there was no chemistry to indicate any kind of unity! THAT'S WHAT YOU GET!!!!!xx Salina

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Hi Salina, Hot looking man you have there... Do you mind if I suck his cock? :)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    A guy asks the male partner to ensure he is not overstepping his mark. You see that is why some single guys feel insecure when they go off and play with couples, as they are not too sure if it is okay for them to do certain stuff with the guys misses.. It is hard for single guys, they don't really understand how a guy can let his wife play with someones else and that the partner is comfy with it. A lot of guys feel the need to make sure the partner of the lady is comfy with the play. It is about respecting the couple and the male partners feelings in the situation that may arise...pardon the pun. So single guys feel the need to make sure that they are not stepping on the toes of the male part of the couple and that is why they usually feel the need to make sure all is good. I hope that was understandable, as i am ranting after a big weekend at the club and still a little weary. So Sal, when that happens Andy just needs to be honest and say to the guy, yeah that is fine with me, But ask Sal she may not want to suck your cock..lol Leesa

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    If he is happy I am :) Hang, on...which one of you is asking first?? :)Mikle, Lol! Ask us both, now there's a thought! I like your thinking :PLeesa, I do get the respect thing..asking Andy and making sure he is cool. Obviously I am totally over reacting. Focus, I get what you and others are saying too, as far as complementing Andy, but again my biggest issue is like in the example above.WTG, you are right I am not his property, therefore asking us both makes best sense. The order of who he asks first does not really matter, like I said though, I was right there at the time, it wasn't a quiet word with Andy, the conversation was played out in front of me, I was just excluded from it.Stalky, I am glad you get it :P Even when we are chatting on cam things like,' the lady in red next to you is hot' then they will ask Andy what my rhp handle is :P You are right Stalky it is a giggle. I must say though, until this forum post never have I had a female go out of there way to approach me and ask if i mind, but then i guess we have never played with straight females so we are more of a package in a potential females eyes. xx SalinaPS Lol all of you, some pretty funny people out in RHP land, this has been fun :)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'WildTassieGypsy' Quoting 'MissBJ'I reckon they should ask the male if he is ok with them hitting on his missus...then ask HER if it's ok.The relationship is between 2...so both should be consulted...and both should agree....or disagree.JMO...BJxxx I think its the other way around, I think he should ask her if she is interested. . . . .and then ask Andy or leave Salina to tell Andy what is happening. Salina, I think you are dealing with an age old concept of women as property and you have every right to feel annoyed by it. Cheers WTG Im not meaning it that Sal is Andy's property at all...I just think its a respect thing....man to man....and I would think that if a woman wanted Andy...she would ask Sal if it was ok first.I dont think its a sexist thing at all...But hey....each to their own.JMO...BJxxx

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    The other guy asks the middle of sex..... Is it OK if I cum inside her? Very well mannered bloke.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Mr writing this one ...In the context at being at a party or club, your own rules should be worked out in advance. The guys should be asking the girls direct and it is up to the girl to say gotta check in with the hubby first etc if required. If you play together or separate surely the attraction has to be there first before anything can happen. If the hubby is not for a particular person he should have a signal that is easy for the girl to understand and can say no with out it coming down to asking the hubby. Why should a hubby say it is ok for a guy to chat up the mrs if she isnt interested in the first place? And believe me us guys will never get it right every time on who the mrs is attracted to.Again comes back to the situation and your own rules. If you are keen on a particular guy and all is good with what has been decided before hand then hubby shouldnt be asked ... just let him know where u are going. Tho you wouldnt say hey hubby i am gunna suck this guys dick now, or would you?So guys should be asking the girls first.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    BABE i would'nt bother asking your other half,,,,, sorry but being blunt is the best way i think. i believe thta in a swingers club we are there for the same reason. I would just come straight out and ask you what i wanted to do to you. when we go a swingers club i tell my missus do do what ever and who ever she wants to. After all swingers parties are for sex and thats it,,, I guess if you want to be all lovey dovey and ask questions go on E-HARMONY. I would rather the guy ask my missus if they want her to suck on there dicks or fuck her..... maybe thats just me if they want to please him/her ask them personaly.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Our rules when at a swing club or party is we only play as a couple, couple to couple and same room, we both expect to be talked to, we come as a package. Seperate rooms is really what is suggested if both partners play and get asked seperately, having tried that we know our partners are treated heaps better same room with their partners present. In the same room guys would not dare treat your wife with disrespect as he would expect his wife treated with respect as well. We dont care who asks who, But our rules will stand, we decide who we play with as a couple, only play couple to couple and only same room. Safety first.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    NEXT TIME I GUY SAYS IT PERHAPS YOU COULD TURN TO ANDY AN SAY "IS IT OK ANDY IF I FUCK HIM WITH A STRAP ON?" LOL THEY PROBABLY WONT GET IT THOUGH BUT ID PAY TO SEE THEIR FACE WHEN YA SAY IT

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    cant believe that guys could insult the female by asking the male, married or not why would you ask the partner. what makes them think they are good enought for the female to WANT to suck his cock. a EGO that need to be knocked down. these guys are rude and out of place thinking a women would with the males partner permission want to do it it with them,,,,, Im gob smacked even if the guy said "yeh go your hardest" what make him or her think that there partner would want to do it with them that. I guess there has to be an interest If she interested is his permission required? I dont think so. interesting Q