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Mortality.....?

June 02 2014

So - I'm currently recovering from a massive hamstring tear, which happened from a perhaps ill-advised return to competitive basketball. Genuinely horrific, and I haven't been able to exercise properly since early April, which shits me... Evidently I have to accept I'm 44, not 24!!!! Anyway, I was talking with some mates over a few beers the other day, and it was mentioned to me that I am probably closer to the end of my life than to the start! Stopped me in my tracks, I can tell you now. It's been said that the majority of people live lives of 'quiet desperation'. Or, as the bad guy in Highlander said, 'it's better to burn out than fade away.' On reflection, I'm really glad I've been able to truly live my life, rather than just exist. And I can tell you I intend to continue that, as it's probably a bit optimistic to think I'll get to 88!!!! Ha! So many people get to their golden years wishing they'd done this, that or the other thing. (And yes RHP is one of them!) I'm satisfied that I won't be one of them. Anyone else had similar experiences? I have a feeling this could be interesting..... I am still 24 dammit!!!!!! - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • jenniecruising

    jenniecruising

    12 years ago

    Slipping in and out of consciousness while being transported from Iraq to Ramstein in Germany. When I woke up with all my bits still attached I vowed to live life to the fullest and use my bits more often ;) Cruising

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I am just back from Germany, we celebrated my Mums 80th. She is very crinkly now, but ohhh wow she is as wild and can drink. Ok this time I won, she cant drink schnaps anymore, but still she is fit, and most important fit in mind. It is so very great to see how agile she is and somehow happy, my dad just past away 3 years ago also 80 and after being married for 56 years, this knocked her a great deal in her happiness, now I can see she is coming back. We all are on the way out, yes but we can, when all goes well still stay young and open in our minds, maybe that's the secret. So stay young, and do what ever you want to do without hurting anyone on the way you are moving too.....thats one of my condition.....and spread love. I saw it again in my big family, we are soooo different each one of us and colourful and not at all of one opinion, but we love and show love to each other. So live your life what ever this means to you. Cheers Litonya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    probably done, seen and experienced a lot and feel that if I died tomorrow, I have lived a fulfilling life. I do feel that not having a significant other in my life that I am missing out. I miss all the couple stuff like dinners and socialising, great sex etc, and I do worry that with how my love life is going that I am going to die alone.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' probably done, seen and experienced a lot and feel that if I died tomorrow, I have lived a fulfilling life. I do feel that not having a significant other in my life that I am missing out. I miss all the couple stuff like dinners and socialising, great sex etc, and I do worry that with how my love life is going that I am going to die alone. Hi Ralf, I do hope your last phrase isn't as sad as it sounds. I'm sure you'll find that special someone that you canb experience the type of wonder that some of us are lucky enough to find, at least once in our lifetime. I had a first wife, but we were married very young and nothing was planned and she ended up leaving me and the kids after 11 years. She did me a favour, because not long after I met my second wife. I can't even try to explain the joy and wonder I had during the 10 years I had with her. She died of cancer 18 years ago. I dodn't date for 10 years after. It took that long to get over the loss. But, I have learnt that, not only because of her and the fact that I found something that some never manage to find, I have been blessed with that along with the other things I;ve done that have made my life full and without regret, so far. I spent 10 years as a part time and 5 years as a full time musician. Tht took me all over the country and I met so many wonderful (and very different and wild) people and also survived a sometimes dangerous past time as far as the drugs and alcohol etc, can be in the industry. Along with everything else I've done, I feel content that I;ve lived a full life so far, but I do sometimes think that, given I;ve probably got 25 years left if I'm lucky (although we are living longer becaue of medicine's advances and I am fit and healthy as far as the major things are concerned). One big thing is, forty years ago, before the 'statin' drugs for cholesterol, if you had abnormally high cholesterol, you simply went about your life until your coronary arteries just slowy blocked and the average lifespan after diagnosis was 15 years. Today, they keep millions of people in the western world alive without side effects who, 40 years ago would be already dead. Anyway... Upshot is, it's the most important thing to do... To ensure you fit as much joy and wonder and love into this short life (it goes so fast). It can be a sad and cruel existence, but also, it can be "A Wonderful Life"... Thanks (I waffled to much... AGAIN... LOL)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Your mates are very positive people lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    never liked the idea of mortality ever since i understood the whole hullabaloo about life ive no doubt ive experienced more than most my age, in terms of my interests, people ive connected with, etc however im very anti death i have made investments in, and follow research into life extension, cell regeneration, etc etc i must admit, its pretty awful seeing people being happy in advertising about having funeral insurance & what not and ive never had any amusement or sense of logic in showing someone where you may end up one day at a cemetary keep living, live the best you can, be healthy, do good, try to live a life of purpose and make a difference in the world

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "Who wants to live forever...?"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My dad has had 2 brain and 1 heart aneurysms, has very high blood pressure, melanoma and has survived 2 really bad motor cycle accidents. I think he must be a cat or something. Despite all of this he still drinks the odd beer and manages to walk 3 km every day. He is always the life and soul of the party and will probably outlive us all. Reflecting on everything he has gone through has made me more determined to live each day as it comes. We are all going to die sometime, it's just a question of when. When I die all I want on my tombstone is "Fuck you life and all of your shit, I survived" !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Having seen all too often life snuffed out in an instant , the void and pain it leaves behind when i have to look at a persons family and friends , the torn hope that i will find their loved one and give them closure while at same time hoping i dont as it leaves them with a faint glimmer of hope everything is ok, has shown me to live the moment to "stop and smell the roses" to appreciate all that i have. there is much pain in the posting above , so if your going to go out , make it with a bang not a whimper and no regrets

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    12 years ago

    Yes Twisted....I know how you feel, aches an injuries remind me how old I am, But I hindsight, I have achieved some of my dreams, struck a few things off my bucket list so far, persisted through the hard times, raised some children......tried to treat others as I like to be treated........and maybe helped some others on their journey as well....I would like to think there would be people at my funeral....saying " I loved and respected that Person I will miss them" Love and peace Tam

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Worse things than death, losing quality of life is one of them xxQ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    A funeral for my cousin, who passed away at the age of 32..... The family had to change the church, as the first church would not have been big enough...... This beautiful man had over 1,200 people attend his funeral........ The people who got up to talk, all had one thread in common, "it did not matter how good he was at something and how ahead he could get, his first priority was to help his fellow achieve the same and excel" wow, so young and to have achieved such love...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Death consumes so many Living people . Their whole Lives revolve around it. Look at Religion . So much of Religion is about preparation for Death and the Afterlife . Why the hell do sooooo many people spend their Life being concerned about their Death ? My Dad says there's two sure things in Life : "Death & Taxes". He's right ! Death comes to us all . So why cry over spilt milk ? On the Great Karmic Wheel , you should only have One Life to Live . This is It ! Don't get hung up on what comes next ... GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Funny this thread should be here today... I went to a Docs appt. this morning and saw an older bloke (he's 76), who I've seen there in the early mornings on many occasions over the years... Sometimes with his wife. I hadn't seen this old fella since Sept last year, when last there. While waiting together, he came out straight up and told me he'd lost his wife (to cancer) in January. They had been married for 52 years (plus, I assume, the years before they married). I've lost a wife, but I just couldn't bring myself to say anything about what I went through, or offer the encouragement that "it does get easier after time", because I thought immediately what it would be like for him to have lost a partner, lover, confidante and 'soul mate' of 52 years . I just couldn't compare what I knew of this kind of loss with what he must be going through. It would be utterly soul destroying to suffer such a loss after so, very long with someone... Very sad. He said he shouldn't complain because they had a good life together and she was well except for the last 6 months of her life... I said he has as much right (even more) to mourn and be and do however and whatever he needs to. He's probably suffering something that no-one could ever hope to understand. A long, full and healthy life is wonderful and what we all hope for, but how sad for the one who is left to live what must be so empty a life now. Just thought I'd share... The death of someone can hurt those left behind so much, that it's hard to see the 'positive' aspects of a "long, full and healthy" life when someone so dear and so long part of your life, is gone.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You are not alone, twisted. I did the maths, too. Every year I would think I have more years to go than gone until last year. And I am at the age when friends' parents are dying and mine are starting to look frail. It brings it home to you that there is my future. But that is all the more reason to take every opportunity to enjoy life and never say no to the untried because you may not get another chance.

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    12 years ago

    I like your comment tanworthguy46.... In both my n mr Cheeky's occupations we get to see life in all different aspects - which reminds me I need to write more - so that when my life does come to an end my story can still be told xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I joined this website was related to the topic of this post. Life is short, can end anytime, and not always in a way you have any control over. I don't think anyone ever looks back at their life and regrets meeting people, experiencing passion or sharing affection. Only one way to find out right?

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Cheekyarses' I like your comment tanworthguy46.... In both my n mr Cheeky's occupations we get to see life in all different aspects - which reminds me I need to write more - so that when my life does come to an end my story can still be told xx Why thank you Mrs Cheeky....you should write, so your story can be told ! When he shalll dieCut him out in little starsAnd he will make the face of heaven shine so fineThat all the world will be in love with the nightAnd pay no worship to the garish sun William Shakespeare Romeo and Juliet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Whatever age you are you could be dead next week. Life ends with death... Age is irrelevant. Xxviolet

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    12 years ago

    Violet incredible - very true ( n you have a very cute bum) Tanworthguy46 - I will write again and you shall be in my script!! We can either enjoy life and accept it's waves of love, success, failures, happiness, sadness, unfairness, and everything that it has to offer!!! Or we can watch as life goes by.... Both will take the same amount of time!! I choose the first option!! Happy day everyone :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    88 good number don't count it out !! Took you .44 years to Twist this far !! So given the hammy's are a bit tight , best you start untwisting brother cause the next 44 should be untwisted mister ! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    If you believe you will die alone you will ! If you believe you will not die alone you will not ! So changes we all hate but changes we all make most are for the better ! If your not happy with how things are Ralf change !:-)) Sincerely Bigocean72 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    12 years ago

    I'm humbled, that I or something I said would go in your script. Love and Peace Tam

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    is why people don't want to die alone? If I had my way, I wouldn't have anybody grieve me when I'm gone. The pain of people I've loved is something I'd prefer not to inflict on anybody else.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    Whoever dies first out of Tara or myself, it's just gonna be a short while until we are together again. Then we are going too fuck off and travel through the stars looking for the next adventure. Prove us wrong?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Many lead lives of quiet desperation. Just living from day to day, week to week etc. Their lives may be altered by some cataclysmic event, but maybe not. Who knows We are born, we live, we die. In between some resolve to lead a extraordinary life - some do, most don't, but remember that your being is usually important to someone and that's what matters most. That your being means all to someone. What I believe, is most important, is while living, you are living the best life possible for you, you judge none who you encounter on your journey until you have journeyed on your fellow mans path, and on your journey you teach others , touch others and be open to the teachings that come your way. So when you pass, you are truly mourned.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Violetincredible' Whatever age you are you could be dead next week. Life ends with death... Age is irrelevant. Xxviolet and that has what had driven home my need to find someone to share my life with. My own mortality has slapped me in the face a few times over the last few years. In the last 2 years I have been held up at knifepoint twice at work, almost a third time. I had a couple come in tell me they were 500 strong and to watch my back after not giving her a job, I had an ice addict stab my tyre at work for no apparent reason then came back when I closed to tell me my tyre was flat and I had 5 bikies standing over me just last week wanting me to erase video footage of an incident, so I have had enough thought provoking shit in my life recently to know my time could be up at any stage.

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' Whoever dies first out of Tara or myself, it's just gonna be a short while until we are together again. Then we are going too fuck off and travel through the stars looking for the next adventure. Prove us wrong? That sounds nice , can I join you two, or before ? lol Quoting 'madotara69' Whoever dies first out of Tara or myself, it's just gonna be a short while until we are together again. Then we are going too fuck off and travel through the stars looking for the next adventure. Prove us wrong?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Funlover71' is why people don't want to die alone? If I had my way, I wouldn't have anybody grieve me when I'm gone. The pain of people I've loved is something I'd prefer not to inflict on anybody else. want to hear what the bastards have to say about me when I am gone, lol I probably meant more spending the rest of my life alone than dying alone.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    12 years ago

    awwwwwwwwwww that's sounds beautiful... I've heard (and believe it too) that when two souls are joined, and grow/age together and been together for a life time here on Earth, that when one person dies it's not long after the person dies as well.....and then they are reunited as one soul forever and never separate. Souls are a beautiful thing. Foxy *I bet you'll make fireworks and more stars, traveling on your adventures* :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    That sounds wonderfully romantic if you are 99 years old,but what if you died tomorrow.... would you really want Tara to die too?.....hugs xx Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    That sounds wonderfully romantic if you are 99 years old,but what if you died tomorrow.... would you really want Tara to die too?.....hugs xx Q

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    But I would come and visit her in with dreams each night until she did. Oh and tamworth, we never say never

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My attitude is due to near death experiences... And I had a reaction similar to yours one at 19 and one at 25... And my reactions led me to getting married twice and divorced twice (I am the only person I know who was divorced by their 21st birthday :/) ... I Am still alive :) so I know how you feel... Just react cautiously knowing that you may also be alive next year... :)) Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Funlover71' is why people don't want to die alone? If I had my way, I wouldn't have anybody grieve me when I'm gone. The pain of people I've loved is something I'd prefer not to inflict on anybody else. I suppose I don't want to die lonely Mr Funlover. Let's hope when the time comes, it is quick and we go down in a blaze of glory.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Funlover71' is why people don't want to die alone? If I had my way, I wouldn't have anybody grieve me when I'm gone. I agree. I've always been a loner, and with all my family and many old friends living on the other side of the world I'm used to being self sufficient. In January I was diagnosed with a brain aneurysm and a craniotomy was scheduled for March. During those nine weeks (besides worrying about having my head shaved, go figure) I absolutely re-evaluated my life, and I was quite happy to realise I had no regrets. I felt I had done well overall and I had been able to make a small difference in some other people's lives. It was a week before my brain surgery that I was undiagnosed , and re-diagnosed with several other inoperable brain defects. (I'm a true headcase, dontchaknow.)Only then did I find out a group of friends had rallied behind my back to look after me in turns after my operation.I was fine with the idea of going it alone, but that really made me cry. (And again right now.) Now where is my triple penetration, goddamnit?! Don't keep me waiting until my deathbed, I don't want to frighten the nurses.(Though I've heard they're quite kinky.)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    all, top shelf. Don't get me wrong, I'm not morbid, it was just a comment that made me think a bit. My personal motto - 'Don't fear the Reaper.' :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    When its your turn it is simply time to goend of storybrown bread done & dusted there is no after life / there is no resurrection / there is no heaven / there is no hell (in my opinion)so live life to the fullest because you only get one crack but you wont be around to feel sad on what you missed so get of your computer / get off RHP and get into the real world Right I am off Rant Over

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Thank you, Circuz. I tend to not worry about illness and death, not only because I've seen much of it as a nurse, and accept it as part of all natural things, but because I don't worry often about challenges in life that are beyond me to change. I worry more about little issues (did I mention my stupid hair?) and how things affect others. (Whoever) grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    There were tears and lots of alcoholic beverages involved. But anger? I get angry when my manager fucks up or my friend's dog gets runover. Or when I get cheated on. Or when people spout misogynistic crap on the forums. That's just me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Much love and hugs xx Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'RunAwayJoinCircz' not talking about the petty distractions, talking about the gross unfairness of the human condition..... Life's fucking unfair and the sooner we accept that, the happier we can be. (It helps if you believe in reincarnation though...) Thanks, Q. Another Book of Living and Dying fan. x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I'm in CHCH visiting my Mum who's in her 90's she's survived the quakes, outlived 2 husbands & a boyfriend...it seems like she'll go on for ever..yep seems like but we all know no one gets out alive. So yes mortality is around us all the time...I visited the white chairs in town, one for each of the earthquake victims the baby capsule was the most touching

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Thank you for sharing your situation May I wish you all the best with it

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    12 years ago

    Quoting Meander (It helps if you believe in reincarnation though...) Thanks, Q. Another Book of Living and Dying fan. x So what are hoping for in your reincarnation Meander ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "There is nothing to fear, but Fear itself" After nearly 50yrs of conforming to society & pressure from family & friends that dumped me in the end due to a split with my ex, I no longer give a fuck, I'm going to do shit that may kill me, but I will be happy, not many ppl will be at my funeral, but those who are there will be my "true friends" will hod their heads high & will celibrate with a "big drink" on me. I've lived my life in fear of dying, no more, I look death in the face & laugh. I do hope that I spend my last days with someone I love & that loves me for what I am, but if I don't find that person, I will die alone. No point in spending your life with "non believers", I've found that out the hard way. Amen. Cheers PL.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    A next life, hopefully as good as this one, but with no requests.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' A next life, hopefully as good as this one, but with no requests. what is coming otherwise we would always live in fear. Hope everything goes well for you in this life and any other subsequent lives :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Life and death.... I been thinking about the concept over the last couple of days. I hope I don't feel as rotten before I die as I've been feeling. I've got the worst case of flu I've ever had and it's no better after 4 or 5 days. Inconsequential, in the scheme of things, but I'd like to go relatively peacefully and feeling not too bad (big wish), with a few family around, maybe and whoever my partner my end up being, one hopes.... But don't let me feel like this... Just dropped in to say I'm not dead... (as yet..... Errrrr....) Cheers...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Sukki and Ralf x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "Athena Orchard, a 12-year-old cancer victim who died on May 28, wrote a secret heartfelt note on the back of a mirror before she passed. Her family members recently discovered the note and were in complete disbelief."

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Airports remind me of life's journey ....Arrivals and departures, short or long journeys, nice people and not so nice people, delays, cancellations, lost bags, tears of sadness and tears of joy, but ultimately we all exit the terminal. Be sure to enjoy your journey

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I did exactly that, your Google suggestion Feeling quite humbled now by a insightful 12 year old I'm on crutches at the moment and now suffering from pneumonia, housebound, miserable and definitely blue as I've just moved back to Sydney and barely know anyone here so suffering from the lonelies, But that post hit home. Thank you for sharing that Better now :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I had this same conversation with my sister who's 2 yrs older than myself a couple of weeks ago. I said we've only lived half of our life and have the other half to look forward too and she looked at it the other way on a negative note. It's the persons perception on what their live has in store for them I think. Live while you still can..... No regrets or what if's at the end. Have fun!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I was introduced to my own mortality in no uncertain terms when I was nineteen, and I sometimes wonder how I'd be different if that hadn't occurred. But I definitely think I've led a richer and more varied life for having the awareness that I'm going to die one day, and an acceptance of the fact. Some people dedicate so much of their life to making sure that they stay alive, that they forget to actually live. And in the end they'll die anyway, so they're just setting themselves up to fail. Being introduced to my own mortality didn't save me from being a tedious pedant though, so just ignore me as I point out that it was Neil Young who coined the phrase "it's better to burn out than to fade away" in Hey Hey My My, his ode to Punk...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'looking4quality' When I die all I want on my tombstone is "Fuck you life and all of your shit, I survived" ! That's a great quote! And I want them to play 'it's only for sheep' by The Bureau, because we all die in the end, don't we?!