M64 F58
If required?
December 16 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
Just a hunch... but maybe she is .. you know... very fertile.HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
theres only one way to play.....and thats safe. ....end of story.
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LoveFrenzy
14 years ago
We saw a profile the other day that said - "If Required", but in their Sexual Interests it said "Swap for foreplay only".Post your Comment
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RHP User
14 years ago
We have came across that too, and when we query them...... Why is it OK for him and my wife no condoms but condoms for me and his wife? They normally get quite defensive, we find most of time its married couples butt they are married to others and not playing with their primary partners. Some on RHP have suggested we ask too many questions????Duh! . Nothing ever happens we have found they are just a waste of space...... .. .. Next!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I have so much to say on this subject but will be brief. Every couple that we have met are clean, beautiful and sexy and everyone has there safe sex policy. Some people are 'hard and fast' and 'cut and dry' lol however we are a little more risqué at times and we do not apologise. All of our friends know us, are safe and I have always believed that sex with couples in this situation is safer than the singles world. Please do not attack us for this view as we practice safe sex with couples who wish it to be that way. D & K
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Quoting 'justenough' We have came across that too, and when we query them...... Why is it OK for him and my wife no condoms but condoms for me and his wife? They normally get quite defensive, we find most of time its married couples butt they are married to others and not playing with their primary partners. Some on RHP have suggested we ask too many questions????Duh! . Nothing ever happens we have found they are just a waste of space...... .. .. Next! YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS!
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RHP User
14 years ago
........it means that he plays with no condom when with his wife and then when he is with other couples it is required so he uses them. Just sometimes he may like to just watch and not partake. Dont assume that when it says if "if required" he is a greater risk than yourself. After all I bet you dont use a condom when you are alone with your partner now do you? Nope because it is not required.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Fi.....If we are referring to the same couple as Donna and Brett which I think we are, they have ticked the box swap partners for sex plus looking for couples and guess what also single ladies! Its a contact site for sex others...geeez we arnt interested if he uses a condom with his wife lol! ......like what is my wife meant to do....take some knitting, if she is not Bi? and they tick swap partners for sex and he only wants to watch? . Its nonsense the risk talk after he has sex with my wife without condoms she will pass on with compliments anything I have.......like we said before that type of profile is a wasted space and its....next! . Mike.....So safe sex is .....no couples play involving anal play with random Bi guys? Did we get that right? Did we?...hehehehe
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RHP User
14 years ago
Or she always uses condoms because he is a dirty skank and will try and get away with barebacking at every opportunity. xxMeeks
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'justenough' . Mike.....So safe sex is .....no couples play involving anal play with random Bi guys? Did we get that right? Did we?...hehehehe no anal play with anyone outside of our relationship. so i guess that means no anal play with randoms, neighbours, the local shopkeeper, or even the guy that lives in the fisher n paykel box at the end of the street....we understand the dangers and are of the opinion that even the cleanest, most careful people are always at risk, even when using condoms. ..... . ..... . they only reduce risk, not exclude it.the same std's can be transmitted via oral and digital contact, in fact, we are all at higher risk when we perform unprotected oral sex, than we ever are when having unprotected vaginal or anal sex.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I thought if required meant: if we got to the "penetration part" its required, of course. again...ask people if there are grey areas in their profile :) could be a simple mis understanding
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Hey Guys,We always take the "if Required" remark as meaning ..if the other party insists then he or she will use condoms but if they can get away without using them then they won't. Because if it was only for the penetration part there is no no need to state it...it should be automatically required otherwise they should just state "Always for intercourse" Well...that's the way we understand it. Quoting 'AdventureTime' I thought if required meant: if we got to the "penetration part" its required, of course. again...ask people if there are grey areas in their profile :) could be a simple mis understanding
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Fiona, Sorry but that's not what it means. As justenough stated above, this is a sex site, the questions asked and answers given all are in relation to what habits you practice with any random playmates. What a particualr couple does with each other is completely irrelevent to anyone else. Quoting 'fionabee' ........it means that he plays with no condom when with his wife and then when he is with other couples it is required so he uses them. Just sometimes he may like to just watch and not partake. Dont assume that when it says if "if required" he is a greater risk than yourself. After all I bet you dont use a condom when you are alone with your partner now do you? Nope because it is not required.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ok I know of 3 people in Perth that caught some sort of VD having so called safe sex!!! 2 guys and 1 female, guy 1 had oral sex with the female and safe penetration (Condom) He got VD WHY?? Guy 2 had safe sex as well as far as he was concerned but had oral sex first and he got genital herpes. Female was bi and only had oral sex with another female and she got some sort of VD as well. My question is: What is safe sex?? If you can catch them all through oral sex as well.. I would love to know...........
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RHP User
14 years ago
The other alternative is ticking the box that says "always for all activities". Now I doubt if any couple can say that.....not honestly!
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RHP User
14 years ago
That’s why my wife and I are looking for a permanent to long-term friendship with a single bi-guy or a couple with a bi-guy, rather than having sex with everyone on here,(wishful thinking “LOL”) that way its controlled. We just came out of a long-term sexual friendship with a bi-guy that went for 4 years (sadly he got a gf and she don’t like swinging), but we are looking again for someone special.. The only safe sex is one partner, got to remember some guys can’t wear condoms for one reason or another. This does not mean they are stupid and if you look at it another way: If you have lots of sex partners then its says you are open to VD’s...So does this mean people who have more than 1 partner is STUPID.. We all like sex you just got find what works for you.. yes if required can mean when it come to penetration put on a condom.... We rather just play safe with 1 guy or a couple that don’t go out every weekend looking for sex... Sadly not many people like that left around....
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RHP User
14 years ago
I know of a case recently where the wife had been quite unwell and was subsequently diagnosed with Hepatitis B - her and her husband are swingers. Accusations were abound after this revelation. Wife distraught - who had been cheating on who ???? etc etc.. etc....it turns out that several months ago they both visited a club and swung with another couple, his condom broke while he was with the other lady. Instead of stopping to recitify the situation (or informing the lady of his predicament ) he just kept going !!!....yep didnt tell his wife either.........result...he is now a carrier and his wife is infected.....you can imagine what when down after this all came out Hep B can lie dormant for up to 6 months before becoming symptomatic......a person can also be a carrier and not have any obvious symptoms but still be infectious. Hep B is still commonly transmitted thru unprotected sex and is also reportable to the Department of Health - it is law, here in WA that if you practice unprotected sex and KNOWINGLY have a STD - you can be jailed. This couple are now having counselling due to the trust issues that has been raised from this incident. They are both now on a drug programme for the next 6 months to combat the illness and naturally undergoing a huge lifestyle change/adjustment from giving up alcohol to a low fat diet and of course, they arent swinging. This marriage is hanging on...just.... Unfortunately due to the belief that the husband more than likely contracted the Hep from his club partner (he swears this could be the only incident) and no names were exchanged, this couple are unable to contact the club couple.....they have also had the unpleasant task of informing other couples they have swung with since the club incident, of their situation....as Hep B CAN be transferred thru oral sex as well as vaginal/anal (risk is low but it has been documented) It only has to happen ONCE...just like pregnancy..you cant be a little bit pregnant nor can you have a little bit of STD and not everything can be fixed with a dose of penicillin... I guess there is something to be said for self pleasuring at times....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Really there is no excuse to catch Hep B, Immunisation is available and if you plan to swing that should be done routine, as well as the hep a or c if you are a anal fan. . We do smile when we hear the mentality making a biggie with condoms.....thats only part of it as confirmed with the experiance from the poster above..... .......That couple mentioned above were swinging without the available immunisations.... a risk they chose to take. . . . GTbi......Looks like you have caught onto STD warts the biggest STD problem by far with terminal results sometimes and there arnt a condom in world that will protect you.....Agree with you screen and get to know your partners, we also favour limited partners but some little variety too ....thats whats swinginging is about for us. This rule would also have prevented the HepB case above.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I would have thought that the guy may not wear a condom if someone was performing oral on him but would wear one for any penetrative activities. Whereas his partner would use condoms for all activities. Just a thought......
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think you need to ask each person the question. What does "If required" mean to you. Some guys have "If required" and in my experience that means.... if the girl asks him to put one on otherwise they don't bother. Yes there are still lots of them out their people. I have also met people who state "For all activities" yet I have never seen them with a condom on during oral sex. Nothing is ever 100%, but at least that person is being honest when they say "If required" giving you that opportunity to make the call if you want to play or not. xxMeeka
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RHP User
14 years ago
Well for us we like to play with one single or a couple. This is not to everyones liking but is what we like. But its all going to go into the too hard basket, finding someone who wants a long-term friendship is just getting too hard and I rather spend that time out gold prospecting.. I think we have 3 months left on our membership.......... Don't get me wrong we love swinging to but we live in a dead town and have been let down too manytimes...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Just thought I would add this one in: If you want SAFE SEX, Get a rubber doll. They make some really good ones overseas cost about $6ooo and are life like, they do not bitch and winge and never say no to sex, you can’t catch VD, hep or herpes from them, you must have a lot of lube.. They come in male and female ordered to the size you want 5’ to 6’6”, you choose the pussy, boobs or penis size as well, now you don’t gotta worry anymore... PSS you can lock them in a cupboard and they won’t be angry or pissed off with you ether... Oh this is just my warped sense of humour “LOL”
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RHP User
14 years ago
Meeks, Good points and agree with you, if playing with singles butt a married couple, playing with another married couple safe sex has to be consistant between the 4 of them......otherwise ummmm did you read that hepB post above or is cheating going on married to others? Butt the question raised we believe, What is achieved by a married couple where the wife says "allways" condoms for intercourse and her husband says "if required" for intercourse in their advert to attract others?. Assuming the norm that married couples dont use condoms unless for birth control, what have they achieved? No and it does refer to between them no comdoms but others allways as they would still be consistant between them. It does not add up....another reason why we dont play at clubs / parties there is no oppurtunity to review their written words and part of our selection process is missing. We smell a rat!.......Next
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'SLK27' I know of a case recently where the wife had been quite unwell and was subsequently diagnosed with Hepatitis B - her and her husband are swingers. Accusations were abound after this revelation. Wife distraught - who had been cheating on who ???? etc etc.. etc....it turns out that several months ago they both visited a club and swung with another couple, his condom broke while he was with the other lady. Instead of stopping to recitify the situation (or informing the lady of his predicament ) he just kept going !!!....yep didnt tell his wife either.........result...he is now a carrier and his wife is infected.....you can imagine what when down after this all came out Hep B can lie dormant for up to 6 months before becoming symptomatic......a person can also be a carrier and not have any obvious symptoms but still be infectious. Hep B is still commonly transmitted thru unprotected sex and is also reportable to the Department of Health - it is law, here in WA that if you practice unprotected sex and KNOWINGLY have a STD - you can be jailed. This couple are now having counselling due to the trust issues that has been raised from this incident. They are both now on a drug programme for the next 6 months to combat the illness and naturally undergoing a huge lifestyle change/adjustment from giving up alcohol to a low fat diet and of course, they arent swinging. This marriage is hanging on...just.... Unfortunately due to the belief that the husband more than likely contracted the Hep from his club partner (he swears this could be the only incident) and no names were exchanged, this couple are unable to contact the club couple.....they have also had the unpleasant task of informing other couples they have swung with since the club incident, of their situation....as Hep B CAN be transferred thru oral sex as well as vaginal/anal (risk is low but it has been documented) It only has to happen ONCE...just like pregnancy..you cant be a little bit pregnant nor can you have a little bit of STD and not everything can be fixed with a dose of penicillin... I guess there is something to be said for self pleasuring at times.... we thought clubs were safe and this sort of thing couldnt possibly happen there.......... to me, play at a club just increases the risks...people do things they normally wouldnt. i know personally of a couple, who are big time drug users.....and swing. needless to say, we'd not go anywhere near either of them....or anyone they have been with (if we are aware of).... the guy has been active in the lifestyle for a very long time, and is into some really nasty shit, not just drugs. hes also a horirbly abusive and violent guy.... who happens also to wear a 'patch'....
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think you need to ask each person the question. What does "If required" mean to you. Some guys have "If required" and in my experience that means.... if the girl asks him to put one on otherwise they don't bother. Yes there are still lots of them out their people. xxMeeka . I agree with Meeks here. If you're not sure what they mean by it, ask questions and yes, as justenough says, lots of them. I got absolutely roasted about a year ago for raising my hesitation about the "if required" thingy and heard lots of variations in explanation of what it meant to people. . These safe sex forum posts make me shudder at the best of times. Too many inconsistencies for my liking ... . Flirty x
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RHP User
14 years ago
Simply NO GLOVE NO LOVE for me!
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RHP User
14 years ago
i'm with you dude.....when i was here and playing as a single guy it was 100% condoms. on a couple of occasions i was asked if i'd forgo the protection...... i took these as my cue to leave...so did. my wife and i used condoms for the first few months we saw each other, and it was only after mutual agreement and STD testing, that we went to oral contraception and no condom.........(and we'd known each other since 1975)
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