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Dating a player

April 07 2017

In my experience and view of the world, most (if not all people) would want nothing more than to have at least one other person in this world to understand and connect with them on a deeper level and sustain it. When I was younger, I wanted to part of the cool crowd, be the life of the party and be accepted and loved. As time went by, I realised that people are attracted to bubbly personalities and people who are easy to hang around. Nobody likes negative nancies. So my question to you is - have you, would you or are you dating someone who's perceived as a player? I ask this because I attract good looking, nice guys who have hot bodies and as they seduce my mind and body, I connect with them at a deeper level and even though sometimes they shy away... they start to trust me and I'm not going to hurt them but want to make them see that not everybody is out to break down their wall of armour like a Trojan to wreak havoc on their heart. It is not an easy task, but if they are worth the fight, then nothing can break my focus. What are your thoughts and experiences? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ** A male who is skilled at manipulating ("playing") others, and especially at seducing women by pretending to care about them, when in reality they are only interested in sex. Possibly derived from the phrases "play him for a fool", or "play him like a violin".**Im not sure if this is what you mean, but I'll go with Urban Dictionary's top definition.No, I'm not attracted to the female equivalent other than just physically and wouldn't really want to go there. Other than the physical, looks, and they don't last...I'm attracted to women who are interesting, funny, outdoorsy( if that's a word.. ) and probably most importantly, has a degree of empathy.I couldn't gel with someone who doesn't have some empathy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Is an image or a reputation I guess. It's what you perceive as a player. It's superficial. I agree some people do love that lifestyle and do put up their walls because they have been hurt before and suffer in silence. Like any human, they want to be understood, whether they admit it to themselves or not. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I dated a player, when I was a player and we played a good long game until it was over. You sound like your playing with fire. It may not be him that gets burnt but you. Still, nothing ventured nothing gained. Hope it's worth it. P.S what is your focus ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Players are Men who like to date lots of women or are into the swing scene. I don't necessarily see a negative connotation to the word player. To me a player does not necessarily mean arsehole. FlyGirl I am not sure that dating a player is the same as dating someone good looking so I am confused by your question. Not all players are conventionally handsome or good looking. My boyfriend is definitely a player when viewed outside the swinging scene and personally I find that the average person doesn't get it all and doesn't understand why it doesn't bother me. They see it as a lack of commitment or that it means that he doesn't love me. And that is simply not true but I find it very difficult to explain to doubters. I may be off topic here as my definition of a player seems to differ to yours and to Kool's.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Would I date someone knowing there a player ? That would depend on the person. The issue I would have is that they always practice safe sex and get tested regularly. IMO it's no different then being in a open relationship. They key for me is that there honest and upfront. I can relate with you Op about being one of those nice guys who gets let down all the time... You wonder why good guys finish last ? Maybe we get fucked over by a female player.lol I've been on the other side where a wife or g/f have cheated on me which always turns out terminal. If there open and honest I don't care if there fucking Tom,Dick & Harry at the same time. Just be safe! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    As long as they have time for me then who am I to stop them. And you can't. Would be preferable that they include me if all parties are open to it. 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    What makes you think women can't be players ? There are plenty of women who are players and they do it well !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I said men because I was answering the OP's question which referenced men. My definition of player can be put to anybody, I didn't mean to insinuate that only men can be players.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Anybody can be an arsehole as well. It's more about an individual and there values, etc. I don't discriminate. :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    @Candy - yes you definitely have a very admirable relationship with your bf, I've always said before and it takes a certain type of person to do so :) A player to me is one who appears to be non-committal to anyone but themselves and always with a different person each time. Manipulating emotions to get into their panties. When one is in a relationship, I don't believe they are a player. They may be just very charming and flirty but they are committed and he does love you. Players are generally attractive in style and possess something that a lot of people lust after, which they use to their full benefit. I know good looks are subjective, but I wouldn't date a dick. Maybe it's a relative term, dating "many". What is "many"? (Not gender specific) Thanks @CruisingLife :) @SailBadtheSinner - yes at first I thought I was playing with fire because of my curiosity. I stuck around and stayed friends and now it's more than that. It's just nice to be appreciated :) Fact: heartache is bound to happen in life. I think understanding it is the key to acceptance. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have to lust after my partner - mind, body and spirit and vice versa. I don't mind reaching a little higher to get what I want. It just depends if the "player" has enough pull on me to keep me digging away at his exterior to reveal something sweet and beautiful on the inside that even they didn't know they possessed. This is how I live my life. To encourage others, even in my family and friendships. To me, that's a challenge I like. On many occasions, I haven't listened when people tell me no. I'm rebellious because my heart tells me what is going to free me, not the people around me. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    It's yours. It's your responsibility to protect yourself, not theirs. Adjust your sensors to detect their lack of empathy. Play your own game. Just remember, even the biggest player is vulnerable to true love. There is no rules to love so it is possible to snag a player. Being a player is an attitude and life style, not a genetic code. You can make them putty in your hand if you have their genetic kryptonite in your genes.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Annie - you should change your name to be AnnieMakesSoMuchSense or AnnieTrueConciseCorrect LOL That's it - play your own game :D it is not how people "treat" you, it is how we deal with the situation. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If we're going by Koolgrey's definition, then I have no tolerance or interest. Been there, done that with my ex and it has left me with scars I'm not sure will ever go away. Talking emotional rather than physical here. If however, we're going with CandyDelicious' description, then I'm all for it. Using that definition, I would classify myself as a player and it's what I look for in a lover. I've been with one lover for over years, because we're both 'players'. It works for,us, and I can't see it changing in the near fu

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Somehow managed to hit 'post' before I'd finished. How embarrassing! 😟 Was trying to say 'can't see it changing in the near future' Having said that OP, I do agree with your opening statement that most of us are looking for for a sustainable connection with someone. I'd go so far as to say most of us are looking for a committed relationship. It may be a monogamous, or open, or polyamorous relationship, but it's still a relationship where you're committed to the other person nonetheless. I've seen more than one of my (platonic) male friends staunchly declare that they don't want a relationship and commitment etc., and then meet that one person who they 'click' with on every level and are prepared to take a chance on, and put their hearts on the line. They've changed their tune quick smart, and it's been delightful to see, and delightful say 'I told you so' to them too.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    * over four years...relating to my first post. No more posts from me tonight, I'm obviously incapable of typing sensibly. I'm blaming it on that third glass of wine 😀

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ...yeah, I do that too. Posting after one or three too many.Keeps things interesting here..

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Players are just emotionally unavailable people. Some are emotionally just unavailable full stop, others not so, depending who they met with at that time, how they play/treat the other person etc etc. Their behaviour determines how they are perceived. Ms Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    I also believe when "some" people do met a player, they want to fix/rescue them from their wicked ways. I personally think, sometimes it backfires, especially when a player does not want too change their behaviour. Some fixers/resucers see players as a challenge. Ms Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    We all have some... but it's important not to carry it onto the next person we meet. It doesn't mean we have to be perfect to meet someone. In fact, I believe it's a beautiful thing to be a bit broken, a bit flawed. The potential to grow together is so much more rewarding than finding someone who's already perfect at everything and trying to keep up with that. It plays on my insecurities and it's a turn off when I don't feel safe. It's too much effort to change myself in that way. No thanks. Just because one or a few people hurt you in the same way or different ways, doesn't mean the next person is gonna do the same. A lot of people aren't conscious of this or communicate it well. So it's easier just to leave in too hard basket. Agreed with the above comments @SuperFoxxxy - I agree here...I try to save/fix/show others and hope/let others do the same for me. It creates a connection. There's some attraction and appreciation as a reward at the end of it, if successful. The delivery of such is important. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    is just too wide and imprecise on it's own to make any valid description or judgment. It all depends on the context, so he could be a pathological liar, psychopath (anti social personality disorder), and (among other possibilities) also someone who is just emotionally unavailable. I do not know your situation, but keep in mind that saving a wounded deer is such a cliche. About first two it’s been written enough... Emotionally unavailable guy They're always doing their own thing. They're always looking for faults. They're always holding up a shield. They're scared to show you who they really are. He's rarely satisfied. (Ms)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Players get addicted to the chase and conquer. Note: their constant daily texting pre conquest. Post conquest is excuses and avoidence. Funny how they are suddenly unavailable but could meet up at the drop of a hat in the beginning. Well that was my experience with a few guys early on in my online fuckery. Then after some head shaking and not understanding what I had done to not hear from them again, and the realisation that they were just players and all their words were just fluff to get me in the cot, and they really got off on juggling many women at once. Welll I hardened up and grew some balls of my own. Sadly I became a player myself. It was enjoyable for me at the time. A bit of a power trip and I must admit, was great for my fragile self esteme. I became addicted to the chase. Got a little lost as I forgot what real intimacy felt like. And I must admit, it scared me after a yr or so with that attitude. It was protecting myself but I pretty much lost myself at the same time. A great growing experience though. I pushed my own boundaries, stood on the edge,looked inwards. Found myself. Understood myself. Liked myself again. So just know that its not what you do or how you react to it. Its their shit, but unfortunately if fucks with our heads when we open our hearts and become emotionally vulnerable.They only love the chase.The manipulation. The hunt,the kill. Then they wipe their hands on the curtain while they are texting a meet with the next challenge. Well I should know, because I did it myself. But you can never be satisfied, that's why you keep hunting

  • MissBishere

    MissBishere

    9 years ago

    Love your post willow. I have done the exact same thing myself. It was the attitude welll I can do that to and fuck you all. These days I'm not a player any longer and am considering what I really want.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Agree with cat_n_the_hatter and kool. Not much I can add but I have experienced the best player in the business, still in contact actually, but I now tread with caution and it's a shame it resulted in my passion going cold, it could have been off the planet good, it was heading that way, but all the things highlighted in these enlighted posts started to show through and spoiled it. I'm fine where I am, but do feel sorry for people like that, they'll wake up one day and see what they've lost, missed opportunities with people they were into, but failed to engage because of their own selfishness 😃

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    with players, you just know the same routine would have been played out with every other woman, though if they're good at it, you didn't know that at the time, the realisation comes later. Manipulation is an apt word. Hook line and sinker, fooled me, but then I'm not ashamed of that. I'd rather have an open heart, for the passion to follow, than close it off 😃

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    When I first posted, I had no idea where this question would lead. It's been really interesting and kinda eye-opening. I don't think it's that uncommon for people to become "players" or emotionally unavailable themselves after being hurt by those same types of people. It can be contagious and just goes to show that the buck stops with us and what lessons we learn :) Players in the swing scene would be fun if you can separate the emotions. But I guess as @Candy pointed out I was referring to the players in the vanilla sense. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    A few friends of mine have referred to me as a player even though I am in a loving committed relationship and any other men that I have dated in the past all meet my boyfriend and we often used to all go out and socialize. I never led anyone on and I was completely open and honest. Am I a player or not? I don't know.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    By people who have failed to lure the other into a relationship. The other "player" may have any number of reasons for moving on. So is anyone that is after NSA a player? Men call it NSA. Women call it Casual........ Different meanings on their respective planets.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yes I agree in part that does happen yes, but there are a lot of us not looking for a relationship, and I still wasn't thinking that way, even after I fell for him, I still wasn't wanting a relationship, but the big L hit me, purely though because of the manipulation and smooth talk, some of it, you just don't say to someone you just want to fuck, it was actually a low act to inject those things he said, knowing how they would affect me, the master player at work, and he later apologised and admitted he is a player. Calculated routine to build the passion up, with little regard for the other person. This can happen without manipulation. The usual routine for me and the guys I see ongoing, is for sexy talk to increase, letting each other know how turned on we are for each other, more so during/after/between meets, that builds to bursting point, sex is amazing, perfect 👍 but it's always sexual, I've never had a guy say to me what this guy did, it made my knees come out from under me and the clear message was HE wanted more than just a fuck. I resisted for a while, then let myself relax into that, but the broad assumption that women are trying to get their hooks into men, well it's a generalisation isn't it, perhaps because of your own experiences, I don't know. We don't all want a ring on our finger though. I've only just taken one off and I don't intend on putting one back on 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Two entirely different things 😃

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    an abuse of power from a Dom. This was the key thing, submitting fully, the mind is very powerful thing. As his sub, he would tell me what he wanted me to do, I would say 'Yes *insert name*' and he would say 'Good girl'. Almost dark, both in that place, but I will do anything for my dom, it turns me on to be a good little sub. Very easy for a player to take that too far 😃

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    I was generalising. I think your case by the sound of it was a good example of a player. Yes when the L word comes calling, it can turn our worlds upside down even when we feel we don't want to go there and had no intention of falling. What l was alluding to is many people use the term player to cover up their exposed vulnerability to the outside world. To lay blame onto someone else for failed relationships. "Wasn't my stupidity, he was a player"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yeah, I get what you're saying. Re Candy's comment about being called a player, lots of sex/sexual partners, doesn't make someone a player in my opinion, if so, I would be one, and I'm definitely not. I'm not perfect, I screw up sometimes and cause hurt, but never intentionally. I always go into any liaison in a positive respectful way, hopeful it will go well, and so get to repeat it 😛

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    No comparison. A player doesnt even get to be a NSA or casual ongoing. They are into the conquest. So once its done, its done. Its the chase that they are into. And Im not talking about ppl that go to swingers parties/venues. Totally different, as there is no leadup.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ...Im not here to waste time....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'CandyDelicious' A few friends of mine have referred to me as a player even though I am in a loving committed relationship and any other men that I have dated in the past all meet my boyfriend and we often used to all go out and socialize. I never led anyone on and I was completely open and honest. Am I a player or not? I don't know. of being a player. My own experience is that this is a derogatory word that women seem to throw at me, when after a period of time, I have ended our liaison , because I cannot see us as long-term or its just not working for me or us. And this has not necessarily sat well with them.When I start seeing a lady and we agree to hang out, I always inform her that I MAY be seeing others. I have always been open , honest and upfront of my other friendships and never led them on. I do not expect my friends to be exclusive to me either, unless we mutually agree.Life happens and after seeing a lady for a while, I may find that its just not working on several levels and so to not waste any more time for either of us, I will end it. Id rather be alone than in the wrong or a unproductive relationshipThis is often when the word "player"is tossed at me. At the end. Why ? because I know what I want and sadly I haven't found it with that person ? Because I adore and enjoy the company of women and I do have quite a few females friends, many which are platonic , but whose business is that but mine ?Because I am upfront, respectful, discreet, practice safe sex and I believe genuinely that even though the friendship may not have worked out, doesn't mean I have not enjoyed the time and memories we have created together, nor the experiences given to me by that woman , that I am a "Player" ?When I am in a committed long term relationship of which I have had two in my life, both of which have out lasted many of mates marriages, I never cheated on my women, and I have been there 100 percent , being I hope, the best man and partner I could be with them. When I met those two amazing women, I knew with both of them, that I wanted to spend a hell of lot of Sundays in their company. Immediately. These 2 woman I connected with on every level straight away. I was fortunateBut with other ladies, there's a lot of sorting and sifting. We may connect sexually but you know, is she the lady I want to introduce to my family and circle of friends ? Its not always instantaneous like the above scenario.So when I'm single, I date and I hookup. Sometimes I maybe seeing more than one woman and so does this make me a "player" ? because I am searching again for what I once had. Because I would like it again ?I'll be honest , it does hurt a bit when its said to me or about me, like WTF ?Do you really want to continue a relationship with me, when as much as I would like to be into you, I'm just not ? So I know what I want, I'm consciously searching for this, does this make me player ? If that's the case, play on.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I personally dont see that as being a player. Yes agree that an ongoing casual thing can come to an end and its pointless flogging a dead horse if one side has outgrown the setup. And its not about manogomy either. Players know they are only going to tap you once, before they tap you. Its just a conquest. Not what you describe. But agree the word is different for others. No Diggity :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    but it seems to be, as I said, a word thrown around, when it suits.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Great topic! And just when I was wondering about you because I miss reading your posts, there you are! The answer to your question is unfortunately a yes from me. I usually don't suffer fools and I am a sharp tack and can tell what the guy's after so I never allowed any players in my life until recently. Suffice to say that it was all because I felt a very deep connection on our first meeting. It was very weird and it was on a spiritual level, hard to describe without sounding fluffy. I'm an empath at times and the minute we met, whoa... the chemistry was off the charts!!! Never felt anything like this before, ever! In that instant, I felt like I've known him forever! So bizarre! How could a stranger feel so... familiar? Subsequently, although I ascertained that he's a player, I kept making excuses for him because of that initial whatever spiritual doo-dah thang. Big mistake... Allowed the thing to drag on for much longer than I should have. Even when my spiritual side or whatever you call it told me it's time to cut the strings and let go completely, I couldn't because I refused to believe that he was truly a player and because I chose to believe that he was a really good man deep inside... he's just been hurt real bad and I felt for him and felt his pain deeply. One of my good friends snapped me out of it by saying that it's time to stop taking in sick puppies and trying to nurse them back to health because you just get bitten and might die from rabies... not worth it. Made me laugh but also made me realise how silly I've been. It's really hard though, and I still think of him a lot because somehow, I do care very deeply for him. It's not logical nor rational ... maybe it's some karmic thang? He's the only one that's made me act out of character so I'm still very bewildered by the whole thing.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Really love your posts on this topic! Really great insight!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Can be men or women. People won't be players anymore when with right person. When right person comes into your life that's all you can think about and if you deny it you look for there qualities in all others you meet :) talking from experience :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have been on this site for a couple of months now and believe it or not my primary purpose isn't sex but connection. I am a few months out of a 7 year marriage where I lost all connection with people as my wife didn't like anyone of my friends so I here I am. Well I have to say that it has been dismal to say the least. I read profiles... yes actually read them lol... and then I will send a message either in reply to what I have read or something short and sweet and depending on the point of view... witty. We'll I rarely get replies back and didn't get any till I updated my profile blurb... I do get some replies now but have all been thanks but no thanks to which I will respond with a thanks for the reply and wish them all the best... I really don't get it to be honest I have never had this problem before in life and have to wonder what people are really looking for??? Has everything changed so much in 7 years that we cant see past what's on the outside to find what's on the inside. I left the marriage with a new purpose and strength and decided to be braver and more vulnerable with my eyes wide open. Anyways I could go on and I did before I deleted it lol. If anyone has any insight as to what I'm doing wrong then It would be greatly appreciated

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Player - One who plays with others. Fucker - One who fucks with others. Wanker - Well...maybe not.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    So my next question is have you ever witnessed the "player" in yours or someone else's life ever change their persona because they were looking for a reason to reform and change his/her "womanising" ways? (Not gender specific) Sometimes it's not that the person cannot and doesn't want to change, it's because they haven't found a big enough reward to make that transition. If the reward or fear is not enough, why would they ever change? Why not just keep floating through life and be numb to all of life's other pleasures that actually make your soul feel good? I wonder how some super pretty/good-looking people are with someone quite average...why are they together? But, in a way it's so beautiful because each have their insecurities and attraction is more than meets the eye. Or maybe one is just super rich lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    Hi @PurePeony! Yes had some time out for RL but back to ask this question that I have always wondered 😉 hope you're enjoying life! Loving your pics hehe - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Just had a read of your profile, yeah there's a few issues with it. The first advice I would give you is to pop on over to the 'Ok fellas join me in the war against no replies' thread and have a good read of the responses from the women on there. There have been so many other guys in your situation who have asked why they aren't having any luck on here. If you have a look around at past topics on here, particularly in the Guys Ask and Newbies sections, you'll find lots of relevant topics.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Thanks Ms_Dragon... I will check it out

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Wow this has been interesting, we thought that we are players just like Candy and thought that wad great! We have a single profile on here to support what we do - I come home 2 or 3 nights a week to find Vicki playing with a guy or 2 as she has a huge sex drive - no one gets hurt and everyone has fun as everything is open. Are we this now 'dirty' word players or not? hmmmm.......... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    No, but what I have seen is players getting involved with someone on a regular basis and all is going well until the coercion and ownership starts, then the shit hits the fan and the acrimony starts, "your just a shallow cunt who uses people" kinda stuff. Gold diggers are experts at this, they find a cute rich guy and play the game until they think they have wormed their way in then get super pissed when they get blown off.Some people see themselves as rescuers or have special insight into what someone else needs, fine have a crack, just don't blame the other if it doesn't go to your plan.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Actually yes, I do know a guy who tamed a player, she was model attractive, in a profession, he was an intellectual, they did the whole elaborate wedding thing, a couple of kids and a house then it all crashed after an infidelity, his not hers.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It's important to know what you want out of the games people try to play with you. I know when I date a "player" that it might not last long or it could outlast more than what anybody places bets on. I know that it is important not to play their game. Sometimes I get hurt in the process but also sometimes it is worth it. Growing pains. I get a friendship out of it at the very least. Just because they do something to me, doesn't mean I have to do it back so the cycle keeps going. Actually in any sort of games I play, in life or board games, I play much better when I focus on my own happiness or goals and what I want for myself rather than being a lovesick puppy dog. Assertiveness is pretty powerful. You give them an attractive offer and they take it or leave it. Their decision is taken in my stride. Such is life. At least I know I tried with the best fit for me. Someone who had some pull on me. To overcome that is a strength and confidence like no other I've felt. It's like when someone wins at games all the time and suddenly they get beaten. They wanna play with that person again because they're so sick of learning new games and winning against almost everybody. Boring. I just play games for fun and have never know that feeling 😋 I never play with people's hearts though. Never. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing the story. I liked it because you shared it not because of the sad ending. I can seriously say that I don't want the happily ever after, married with 2.5 kids and white picket fence... sad it had to be that way, but happiness comes from within not the fact that the person you're attracted to is a player or that you can snag that and tie them down. I would want my partner to thrive in areas other than sex. If that story doesn't end with me then that's ok, I know I tried and hopefully they become a better person, knowing me... corny but true :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Play with hearts, neither do I, and that's the big difference with players, it's their specialty 😉

  • Naughtydouble

    Naughtydouble

    9 years ago

    We get accused of being players by those who dont take tbe time to get to know us. Because we are confidant not mind dancing alone with others or even together. Because we go and chat to people but chat with young old male and female. What is a player on a swinging site mmmmm

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    To my, a player is basically a narcissist. They put themselves on a pedestal, think they are hot shit, treat people as toys and objects and only think of themselves. My opinion of a player is someone who does what they want, with who they want, whenever they want. Without treating people with respect or consideration. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    You nailed it! Timely reading for me too, thanks Agree with you too Touch - I'd rather be open and hurt than shut down, just part of who I am

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    As always, I love your post and that awesome winning attitude! ;) Fully agree with your comment about hoping someone became a better person after knowing you because I often feel that way too. In fact, when my long relationship ended and he thanked me for making him a better man, I cried buckets. And then when a long-time FWB expressed amazement at me for being level-headed and able to crack jokes and laugh even when times got really dark and bleak for me and I was in severe depression, I couldn't stop crying too. I think we both have a huge conscience and we are sensitive souls. ;)

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    If I ever had to not 'feel', be cold and mechanical and treat them like disposable food containers, sorry, I'm hungry 😛 I think I'd hang my pussy up 😉 It'd be all over 😞

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    9 years ago

    That is such a sweet ass post lol I also have to confess that when something I care about and felt so stable with is ripped right from under me, it hurts like hell and I bawl my eyes out like no tomorrow. But it feels so damn good to hurt and feel alive. I guess that's why we go for the bad boys/girls.... to feel adventurous and the rush. I guess it's a bit of a trophy to snag the player, get burnt and do it all over again until we learn... However all the crying is never in vain. I learn my lesson to be more conscious and figure out what I really want from someone and what I can bring to the table other than my sexy booty and personality lol (all subjective of course... each to their own) Sure, I know how to play guys, but it's my choice whether I want to pass on that stupid behaviour. I do what's right for me. If I listened to everyone else, "I've been there a million times", "I've dated a million guys like him, don't go there girlfriend" I would never live my life to the max. Fuck that. Hahaha freedom of choice with a purpose is everything to me. The power of choice is amazing. When someone you fancy decides that you are unique and wants to be with you... that's hot. To be real means to care about other people. I have so much love in my life that I feel that even if I make the dumbest decision, I will always get back up. So dating a player, if he doesn't realise and cherish what he has and realise why I tie him down a little (kinky *wink wink) then too bad so sad for him, he missed out, baby! I love it when I meet my match at something or someone slightly better so I can push through my own boundaries and experience some discomfort. A bit of cheeky competition never really hurt if boundaries are not crossed. It's like seeking drama but with a purpose to do better 😈 Out do myself with every relationship hehe then I look back and see how far I've come. I always suppress the competitive side for fear of losing, but I would be too sheltered for my untamed heart, that likes to come out in a blue moon and ruffle my feathers a bit. Competition gets you on top of your game, most other times it's just nice to relax 😊😘 When you get to know someone better - a player... you will see they are just like most other people. Fitting in, their way... doing what makes them feel good and that's perfectly ok, to me.

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    Re: boundaries You can push through your own boundaries as you feel comfortable. Limitations are mostly of the mind. But when someone else crosses your boundaries that you're not okay with then that's the ultimate no no. A bit of cheeky competition never really hurt if boundaries are not crossed *by someone else and if communicated properly.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    We're all players in the game of life, some of us move forward, some go around in circles. If you haven't noticed nature prefers diversity, it's what makes us stronger. People exist in a multitude of physical and social environments and thrive. We need leaders and we need labourers. I'm sure we don't need pedophiles and psychopaths yet they exist, natures social experiments. What am I saying? Dunno. Perhaps it's just be more accepting. Players, narcissists, and grumpy old men all have their part to play. I think I have my period. 😢

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    9 years ago

    Excuse me for this journal entry but I must vent....!!! Kinda delirious right now. As I lay awake at 4am in the morning, my mind has been searching for a solution to an ongoing issue in my "relationship". Yes already... hard truths. Even if short lived, at least I had a go, aight! It will never seem to go away. What seems to be ages has only been a few weeks, but we've known each other for months. As we come to a compromise and trust each other, the true test of character will be when I leave the country for 2-3weeks and whether my life will come back in ruins or still in tact. I'm a bit worried as I'm handing over my heart to someone else who may be a shaky driver.... "why?" I hear you ask? I don't fucking know why. Why am I like this? Why do I care so much? Cos I'm strong enough to? Because I work through my problems rather than run away...? The other person runs away from their problems first? I confirm with myself that I'm a stayer and not a player? God dammit. I think I should brace myself. *breathe, centre yourself and trust... there is a lesson in this that I will probably do this shit all over again...*sigh* Devil: For what? Angel: for a more meaningful life with a purpose and your true happiness Devil: but I just wanna have fun with someone! Angel: oh but that requires for you to be dragged through hell and back - let's face it. The truth sets us free Devil: god damn you and your stupid righteousness. Only time will tell 😈 leave it all up to someone else to play with your life... Angel: love conquers all. If you love something then let it go, if it comes back then it's your forever" Devil: ..... yes... but not if they keep coming and going as they please. Angel: when they realise the truth, they will learn to love and appreciate what they lost 😇 Devil: hmf ok, we'll see about that 😈 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Haha 😀 I think you're making the fatal mistake of over thinking. With respect, and I do mean that, there are some inconsistencies in your op and what you're saying here, or maybe I didn't quite understand your op properly. You say you want them to trust you, that not everyone wants to break down the wall to their heart, yet in this new post, it sounds like that's exactly what is happening. I'm not having a go at you, please don't think that, matters of the heart can be complicated. Couple of other questions. You refer to this as a relationship, what kind of relationship is it, hasn't it only been a few months? So do you mean fwb or bf/gf ? My thought is you should slow down, take a step back, give him space. And why are you concerned you might come home to your life in ruins? That sounds awfully possessive, sorry but that would scare me off. I'm sure I'm reading in parts of this, but after a few months of actually knowing him, and a few weeks into a relationship, are you worried he'll have sex with other women? Why not just let him rather than spending every waking moment worrying he'll cheat. Is he in on this, meaning does he fully understand what you expect, assuming you want monogamy?

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    9 years ago

    I guess I'm testing my own inner strength and also seeing if he is trustworthy. If he wants to test himself and see how loyal he can be, here is his opportunity. Neither of us can guarantee how long this will last, I said that to him. Yes I want monogamy to start because my desires are almost insatiable and also a player has had enough pussy to last 2 lifetimes if we compare to the average. Where to go from here? Find something that everybody else eventually realises they want, maybe... an intimate relationship, friendship and connection, someone reliable to enjoy your time that you can laugh and cry with. No? Well maybe some are pushing that thought away and blocking ourselves from that. I did, until I realised how much I should be loving and forgiving myself for fuck ups I make. If I take a step back, I've been solo most of my life so I should be used to filling my time with my own projects. My life being in ruins is probably an exaggeration at 4am in the morning 😋 when I was most vulnerable. It would hurt, but so does life. I've presented him many opportunities to test his own character. To make him better and if he decides to deceive me then he will only deceive himself, lose me and hurt us both. If he pushes me away and doesn't see what I'm trying to do for him and for us then so be it. I don't lose anything from doing it. Maybe a bit of time, money and heartache, but it was worth it at the time. I am hoping that he appreciates me enough so that he will do these things for at least himself even if nobody else. He can be a smartass and he may cheat but he is only cheating himself. As the guilt will just catch up to him. If that's how he wants to live his life then that is the hard truth that he has to face. I already did that in my early 20s, couldn't live with the guilt of cheating on my first bf of ~4yrs when we would argue everyday, I couldn't see a future with him and thank god I had the strength to walk away when our lives were so deeply entwined. But it taught me. Nowadays, I have nothing to hide. I can be truthful to anyone if Im truthful to myself first. Take it slow. We have time. If it is to last a long time then we have lots of time. I don't stop dreaming, even when my heart is broken and in pieces. Having had vanilla friends (muggles as you call them @iTouch 😉) for almost 2 decades this year means that I have some great, unconditional love in my life and I won't easily abandon people but can agree to disagree with those I don't get along with. I guess I do care too much 😊 true friends are always there for me. I don't know how I am so lucky... but I am 💖 - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    I do think too much - you're right 🤔 many say this, but if I didn't I wouldn't understand myself so well... that is my one and only aim in life, if nothing else. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I do understand and don't worry, re over thinking, I doubt there would be one of us who hasn't done that. I certainly have, hence my glorious wisdom about it now lol 😊

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I wouldn't have any other type of lover. I want a man who just loves being with women, loves the way we move, our scent, loves to devour us with their eyes, a sensual, seductive, playful, amorous, insatiable man who wants to outrun his soul in my body. Give me those guys. These men are skillful lovers, they know how to completely lose themselves in the moment and movement - they get lost in their own expertise. I love being adored and having every part of my body met with fascination. These lovers know how to play with my mind, delay gratification, bring wave after wave of pleasure, cerebral and physical. Some know how to take that to the next level. Those who know how to be open, vulnerable and get all yummy and connecty as well - now THAT is when it goes from delicious to sublime and sublime to Utopian. I want a man desirous of every part of me, ravenous and hungry. These lovers are players and thank fuck. Thank fuck they know what they want. Thank fuck they know themselves and their own bodies enough to know who to rub up against ans crash into mine. Thank fuck these beautiful men have studied women and practiced the things they have read, heard and watched on many other lover's before me. There is a confidence that comes with knowing exactly what one is doing. I would rather those lovers than the ones who require a road map. Connection is also relative, context is important. Honest communication is always key. Say what you mean, state what you need and play!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Your words have seduced me. "Wants to outrun his soul in my body" Omfg, how hot is that !

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Why aren't there more women like you...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I agree with almost 100% of what you said. I agree that those men are not only the best lovers, but the only ones I want. I don't agree that those men are players though. For me, a player is someone who deliberately messes with other people's emotions, not someone who is open and vulnerable and happy to connect. I think (?) I get your point, and we all have different interpretations :) Your words are gorgeous and made me ache to have that kind of lover in my life again *sigh*

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ...for just on 15 years with the same band. Guitar and vocals, some percussion. No sense of humor they had when I picked up the tuba although not even Page or Ywengie could have made that damn thing rock! So much for the global tour, eh? CM

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'FlyGirlC' Excuse me for this journal entry but I must vent....!!! Kinda delirious right now. As I lay awake at 4am in the morning, my mind has been searching for a solution to an ongoing issue in my "relationship". Yes already... hard truths. Even if short lived, at least I had a go, aight! It will never seem to go away. What seems to be ages has only been a few weeks, but we've known each other for months. As we come to a compromise and trust each other, the true test of character will be when I leave the country for 2-3weeks and whether my life will come back in ruins or still in tact. I'm a bit worried as I'm handing over my heart to someone else who may be a shaky driver.... "why?" I hear you ask? I don't fucking know why. Why am I like this? Why do I care so much? Cos I'm strong enough to? Because I work through my problems rather than run away...? The other person runs away from their problems first? I confirm with myself that I'm a stayer and not a player? God dammit. I think I should brace myself. *breathe, centre yourself and trust... there is a lesson in this that I will probably do this shit all over again...*sigh* Devil: For what? Angel: for a more meaningful life with a purpose and your true happiness Devil: but I just wanna have fun with someone! Angel: oh but that requires for you to be dragged through hell and back - let's face it. The truth sets us free Devil: god damn you and your stupid righteousness. Only time will tell 😈 leave it all up to someone else to play with your life... Angel: love conquers all. If you love something then let it go, if it comes back then it's your forever" Devil: ..... yes... but not if they keep coming and going as they please. Angel: when they realise the truth, they will learn to love and appreciate what they lost 😇 Devil: hmf ok, we'll see about that 😈 - Posted from rhpmobile I see no brickwall, just someone loving. Yes your heart can be broken, but that's life. Why would you risk losing what could turn out a long, lasting and supporting relationship out of fear of losing? Yea you could go, grab a hottie and have some fun during your weeks away, but what do you gain? Maybe fun, maybe not, maybe even the best experience you have had in your live. You just don't know, same as he does not know how you will behave when you are gone, or like you don't know if you can trust him while you are gone. Just because someone loves women or men doesn't mean he's or she's a complete jerk, however if you are really scared, talk! If you need more than one partner to be sexually fulfilled, make an open relationship. It can work, I know a couple which maintains this for years, even thought it's no ease way and comes with more hardships than a regular relationship it can be a beautiful relationship. You can make an agreement for the time you are separated, or spice things up with some nice video-chats. You can drop hints each day what you will do with him when you are back each couple days, to fulfill a special fantasy or leading to a well planed sexy experience. There are many things you can do, but you shouldn't do those because the fear of losing one another, but because you want to. Relax, everything will go the way it has to, there is no need to overthink things. Belief in yourself, your partner did choose you for a reason, why should he throw that away for a fling when you are gone? If he values you he won't and if not, you are better of without him anyways. But what do I know with my little life experience....

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Which is about as easy as giving birth when we're all caught up in past experiences. I was obsessive, even recently over a lover. It took a very wild ride through some old traumas, the laying down of some pretty damaging thoughts and beliefs that 'I' had about 'ME'. I think while so many of us are looking to feel the void or shirk the responsibility of being our own 'enough' we seek it out in partners...yes, even the casual ones. How bent out of shape can we get if they don't call or text back? What is that exactly? For me it was simply the soul destroying feeling that I didn't matter, that I wasn't sexy enough, funny enough, smart enough, emotional enough, too emotional...I just wasn'nt enough to matter. My ego is one hell of a demon and I am busting chops to slay that sonofabitch...but what if we were all our own enough. Releasing lovers is a freeing and wonderful experience, we free ourselves. The expansion of connection, red fucking hot yumminess and ultimately (holy shit balls I'm gonna say it)it allows space for the expansion of love. Just as our children are on loan to us for a time, so too are our lovers. They come to teach us what we need to know and then once the lesson of love is learned they move on...or we do. Fuck that internal dialogue with its bullshit, it stops me thoroughly getting lost in the moment with who I'm with. I want my freedom, I want to explore my sexuality, spirituality, my body and everything else the jig called life has to offer. It took me 43years to get here and just get to the realisation that none of us have the right to judge another, to demand of one another, it is a privilege to give and receive love...be it for a night, a week, a moths, a decade or a lifetime. Lovers are an exquisite pocket of bliss to be thoroughly enjoyed, their minds, souls and bodies. I want to dive in and immerse myself in my lovers, nothing is more delicious that when souls and bodies collide and join...where it all goes sideways is when we don't meet our own needs and demand that they do. Players have learned, the real players, the beautiful adoring ones know how to be vulnerable and that is sexy as fuck and makes every part of me offer up in the moment and sigh, "yes." It gets sticky when we hold on too tightly to an experience that was supposed to be fleeting, a lesson that was to visit, leave its message and then move on. Loving these 'types' (I cringed hitting the keys on that word because it's a judgment I don't want to caplitulate to - but I'll run with it for the sake of understanding) "players" who just love, love, love women and who just adore every aspect of our femininity and our bodies are playful, open, delightful and loving....maybe the other 'types' of players are reacting to the stigma as much as they are their own pain/hurt/experience. We've all tossed hat and heart in the ring at my age and come off a little bruised for the effort...Since I started owning my part in the ghosts of lovers past, I've been able to see the beautiful human in every man I meet and ya know what? That is all I get. Play with these gorgeous men, fall in love with them again as a species...lol. They are our brothers and sons...they get a pretty shitty wrap all too often. Misogyny is something women in this country especially are all too fucking familiar with...but misandary is running rife. How can we open our minds, legs and everything else to something we are secretly hating on? I love the players...there is no bullshit, no lies and no need to turn yourself inside out in a state (due to ownership bollocks) about what they're up to. They are out there, thoroughly enjoying the company of other women, honing their delicious skills and having a fucking ball. The lesson here for me...is why weren't the women? Why wasn't I? I've had more yummy experiences in the last two years than I have ever had in my life and in the last 6 weeks, so much more has come up to free up the space for many more to come. Play with the players and have fun! 💋 - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    Distance is a tyrannical pain in the arse, Lover, is it not. You are missed and thought of. xx There are loads of us out there with this core belief...it is most beautiful, when like our date, it is thorough unexpected. Since I switched my thinking from looking for lovers like that to being open to receiving such yummy people - the energy shifted. I am no longer smacking of desperation and nervous energy that used to create so much anxiety has settled. You're sublime, you should be swatting them off like flies. 💋 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I disagree entirely. Due respect but the guys you're describing are exactly as I would describe my long term lovers, but they weren't players, not even close. Players are cruel and manipulative, it's not about confidence or experience, the words that come out of their mouths, the players that is, it's all bs, they don't mean a word of it, but they have you believe it. I think you're confusing genuine hot/passionate/experienced....... plus more, but confusing that confidence and experience and passion, with being a player. So why do you think they're players?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    So am I right in assuming you've moved from wanting a relationship, to casual or casual ongoing sex? And is it your opinion that guys who have multiple partners, re casual sex, that they are automatically players? I'm genuinely confused how you define a player 😃

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    I do understand your dilemma and have been there before. A big learning but a must if we need to grow as a person. It seems you have doubts on the relationship but also reflects your current view of him and yourself. you seem like an intelligent and self aware woman. You have come across a man who has captured your mind and heart more than what you have expected, beyond the known and your comfort zone. so what to do? For now, not much. Just live it one day at a time. Your at the beginning of your relationship, a few months in. So much to learn about him and yourself and the understand the dynamics of your relationship. Sometimes, time will tell. Go on your trip. breathe. Enjoy your time and don't add anymore pressure on yourself and him than you should. One way to lose it further. What happens in between is not a test on him or you but just life taking it natural course. Can you really help it if he strays and if he hasn't, what does it really mean (and should there be any meaning)? So do your thing overseas and don't stress. Life works out as it should. Being away will also give you a different perspective on your relationship as you will have that space abd time apart. If he is a player, then he will play. I find that many women I know always see that when they meet a man, they treat them aa a project and have ideas on how to change their men, to suit their needs. Best and quickest way to lose a man. Have a safe trip and relax.

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    9 years ago

    I will never give up my dream of having a male best friend by my side. Someone who I can be completely intimate with and enjoy the company of. I am enough for myself, there is nothing I can't learn and do for myself that someone else knows better than me for me...(that might sound a bit egotistic but in all honesty, it is true). I don't need a man... I want a man, I crave for what I don't have (men and their masculine/humanitarian/humourous qualities), but to have them also aligned with what I want my future self and for him to have. Hopefully, that man will crave for me too so it's not just a one-way street. They are nice to have around to share precious moments with. All these moments will add up to something really beautiful. Although, I may be slightly possessive at first, it's not without reason. I have never been able to have a long term relationship with amazing sex - it's either been a short-lived relationship with amazing sex and connection or a longer relationship with not so great sex and an area which I needed to explore because I was so young. Can't I just have both? I chase a player with lustful eyes...it's been a blessing because I have been able to choose. If I can't then, he's not all that anyway... Setting the foundations of trust is important. Indulging in "sleeping around" has brought me nothing but something to brag about (to myself) and passing time. (Found some great fucks and found some massive duds. More duds than great fucks unfortunately. Great fucks seem few and far between.) I want to work on me and all areas of me and hopefully, someone else as well. To help one person in this world that makes me happy is the best thing I can do, if it's the only thing I do. This is why I want something longer lasting, especially with someone that I confess that I don't want to live without. It's freaking hard to find someone compatible and even harder to find true love. But I will not give up my quest and I will die trying. I too have thought before that relationships aren't worth it and had a huge dry spell, but who am I kidding? Why is it that we naturally want more and more of someone or something? We are greedy by nature because we know we can be. I just want one person and for that person to feel I'm special enough to be with for a long while and will wait if I need time and vice versa. I'm not saying this new found relationship is going to last, but like many before me I hope it does. The plan B now that I'm a little bit wiser is to just understand if it doesn't work then it will be a lesson for both of us. I know I crave to feel good and have that little stability. Not these rollercoaster emotions... not the feelings of "I want him again but I don't know whether I will have him again".

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    @lilyorchid @yvesS @LaFemmeFontaine :) @LilyOrchid - Many good points there for pondering. Thank you - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    Your open heart, willing mind and search is exquisitely beautiful as always, I admire your courage and honesty more than I can tell you. You have played an integral part in my own soul searching and ultimately now in my soul listening. Your struggles have their triumphs along the way int as much as you are changing they way people think. You have effected change in me, I am grateful to you and am here if you need a chat. I_touch_myself, as much as I have previously enjoyed our chats, clashes and everything in between, I'm no longer interested in exhausting my energy in that way anymore. I would prefer we agree to disagree and leave it at that. Everything in life is fluid and I'm just trying to learn how to roll with the changing of the tide. I wish you well and will enjoy reading your posts, as always. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    I agree that players aren't vulnerable, the opposite in my experience, they play you like a fiddle, God if I could put more detail on here, I could clarify the extent of that, but I can't. They are actually, beneath the smooth early impressions, cold and calculating, and use the same routine for every chick, leaving in their wake devastation, then move on to the next, and I'm referring to sexual hookups, that's different, it's a deep connection, with their sole intent being to get you to deliver peak pleasure to them, that's it. I started noticing, after a period of time, the constant nudes of him being sent, how do I look? All day, I just thought he was vain, well he was, but the conversation I also started to notice became about his cock, with little mention of me, my pleasure, my body. That was when red flags started to go up, then the lies, but earlier had me hook line and sinker. I'm now disgusted with the things he said to draw me in, in early messaging, it was too much, I'm an idiot for believing it. But very different to forming a great deeper connection for an ongoing sexual relationship where both are honest, without manipulation, both on the same page and enjoy it for what it is. Players target vulnerable people in my opinion and my experience, suck them in, chew them up and spit them out 😜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    'not' referring to sexual hookups, I meant to say

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    You are gorgeous person inside and outside. I like your positive and passionate views and take on life. Keep posting. Love your work. X

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Are emotions and behaviours I am all o familiar with. I think when we yearn for a 'special someone' or 'Mr or Ms Right' it is still some kind of avoidance. I'm not sure, these thought and feelings are brand new to me but perhaps this is the last hiding place of ego cleverly disguised as a desire for connection? I've recently connected with a beautiful tribe of people where I was quite literally loved on impact. There is something extraordinarily beautiful about this kind of connection. It is real. Being a part of something that is more than just me and another or a few others have granted me some thinking and feeling space to start healing. Really healing. I'm no longer aching, yearning, craving for someone to show me I'm worthy. Fucking bizarre the extents I have gone to to feel meaningful to someone...I may as well had a flashing neon sign above my head saying, "Love me....someone...anyone." That really uncomfortable rollercoaster you're on FlyGirl is the very same one I'm on too, it is so spanking new to me that I just now am beginning to feel like the dips and heights won't make me sick. Maybe the ide is slowing down a little, I hope so. Lean into that uncomfy place, remember that your thoughts are just thoughts, you don't have to believe them. Take them out of your mind, get curious about them. Self discovery takes great heart and enormous courage, healing takes a resolve that I hope I am capable of. ....you have all of these things, my love and respect also. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    We all seek the consistency (certainty) and even keel in our lives. It makes planning for the future easier. Alas it comes with a mighty pricetag. Sometimes that means giving up more of us than what we can afford or have. at the expense of spreading yourself too thin to cover all bases and make things perfect, try to attain some internal emotional equilibrium and give what your heart and give without teeping your moral compass nor compromise your emotional and physical well-being. Be self contained. Appreciate what you have now fir what it is without the drama nor additional angst. be content in the thought that he chose to be with you for yourself and you vice versa. Be beautiful and secure in who yoi are the best you can and he will value you more. Dont depend people to validate your importance or existence. Be you, with or without him. Hugs beautiful lady. X

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Hello Gorgeous 😘 ....ohhh boy, I have my shadows and sharp edges, don't you worry about that! 😈 I am working on softening those edges though and really happy with how life seems to be meeting me where I'm am at and the beautiful people that come into my life as a result. You are one of them. ❤️ - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    9 years ago

    😘

  • RHP

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    9 years ago

    @LaFemmeFontaine - thank you for your words! I am so glad that you are on an adventurous path to love and understand yourself, first and foremost. I don't believe I did anything but just be myself and support you as I would any friend of mine. I love reading your masterpieces of self-expression, your journey and your thoughts strung together with such wonderful words that are so appealing to many. I hope that one day you can write more and more about your experiences and when you are in a good place that you are happy with, you can look back at how much you've experienced, the joy you've brought into your own life and the awesome selfies that you've taken to shine! 💖 I hope that you will feel inspired to share more when you have time. Maybe even do more than just write in forums, who knows...I do miss forums and hearing out others' beautiful minds :D one day I may take you up on that offer of a chat! Keep on being you! 💖 - Posted from rhpmobile

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    RHP User

    9 years ago

    All I needed was truth and re-assurance from him and he obliged. I had no other choice, but I knew I had to ask for that at the very least. "Be beautiful and secure in who you are.." very important words - thank you I am back now thank goodness as a few stopover countries didn't let me log into RHP even for forums 😓 oh well, good thing to get off the interwebs for a while 😄 - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    Message me and I'll ping you my email and let's have lunch and talk about all sorts of secrets women's business. You are sunbeams FlyGirl- I hope you have a wonderful time away. You've more than earned your break. x - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    Quoting 'FlyGirlC' @lilyorchid @yvesS @LaFemmeFontaine :) @LilyOrchid - Many good points there for pondering. Thank you - Posted from rhpmobile And right there, you've listed a few of the folks who are very much in touch with their souls. Yourself included! I'd love to be in the list too! And btw, I've just read a previous post of yours re. thinking too much. Dare I say that that very trait is a gift to those who are introverts or have a pretty large introversion in their personality. Without introspection and ponderances, one will never be able to learn deeply and reflect on experiences to cull what's not of value and keep what's of value. In a world that's now largely populated by extroverts, and a disproportionate amount of importance is now being placed on traditionally more extrovert traits, there'll be a lot of impatience and no due attention to detail. Both extroverts and introverts have unique strengths and weaknesses and the world won't function well without both. I've spoken to two friends recently, both of them mothers, and both had one child in their brood who happened to be "quiet" and "slower", compared to the other children they have. I asked a few questions, and then had to tell the mothers that they do not have a "slower" child, just one with an introverted personality and when I asked if these two kids had certain qualities, they both nodded and were surprised I even knew. They were very happy to learn about introverts and how special we are and can be, and how they could approach their kids differently and see them in a new light. FlyGirlC, LFF, and Yves... you've all got beautiful souls!

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    9 years ago

    Sorry... forgot to mention you too, Lily! And Q, PeachyPearl, and Koko and SuperFoXXXy, FitGeek, koolgrey, SydnoBarbie, countrytouch, Soft, etc etc etc. All really beautiful souls! Sorry OP, I have just hijacked your thread! Ah... players...

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    9 years ago

    Love your work. ❤️💋

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    9 years ago

    more level-headed people, who just do good and appreciate things in life. Hopefully, we can spread more goodness and help other people feel good with their words too. Agreed with your comments above 😄💖 thank you! - Posted from rhpmobile

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    9 years ago

    Expressing simple joy at reading ... all views.

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    9 years ago

    I'm more batshit passionate than levelheaded- but I've still got your gorgeous self covered xx