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How To Be Successful On This Site- For Men

Mar 11, 2008
casava   Woman 33yrs
Ok, I've noticed lately a few men asking where they're going wrong, why aren't they getting any kind of success with women on this site... The fact of the matter is, there's just way too many men for every one woman. Look at the number of people online, and the number of women looking for men, compared to the number of men looking for women...it works out roughly to be around about 10 men for every 1 woman. It's stiff competition. Anyway, I came across a post from a similar forum from a lady who addressed the issues more succinctly and articulately than anything I could ever write... I'm aware the reality is that the people who need to read this won't, or aren't even aware of this section of rhp, but to those that have somehow filtered through...hope this is of some help... ***************************************************** ***************************************************** ***************************************************** There are so many questions posted by members on how to improve their chances of meeting up potential partners that I thought I'd share some insights for the guys, from a womans point of view. after all, our view counts as we're the ones your trying to make an impression on! take them or leave them as you will. THE PROFILE your profile is the first impression a woman will have of you. if you look at your profile, would you be interested in you? Take a few minutes and give it some thought. You have to not think like a guy. after all you're not attracting guys. and If you are, then keep thinking like a guy. this is basic marketing- writing TO YOUR AUDIENCE. not to yourself. Saying "yea I'm god's gift to women" might impress you, it wont impress her. enough said. Be yourself. be upfront and honest. share some things about you that doesn't pertain to your sexual preferences. any hobbies? anecdotes? pets? let some of your personality come through. Women know this is a site to find sex partners. we know you want to have sex, thats a given. what we Do want to find out is if youre also a good person, sane, not a psycho axe murderer. just stating "your here to have fun and sex" isn't enough foreplay for us to want to write you back. THE PHOTO ok this can be a deal maker or breaker, and here's where you should put in a little effort. Man there are some awful photos on this site. for the most part, guys think right up front in your face. women tend to be more creative romantic thinkers. its just the way the two brains are wired. Putting a photo of a close up of your dick head so we can see every pore and freckle isn't going to have the same impact as your naked form silhouetted against a window. if you're more inclined to a face shot, make sure we can see your face! take off glasses and hats. Un-clutter the area so we can clearly see you. smile. look alive. see what angles your face looks best at and use that angle! double chins shouldn't be taken full on as it makes the face look bigger, for example. the body shot can be more particular. if you aren't in the best of shapes (round not being a shape here), consider angles to show off your best attributes. have a cute butt? great legs? show us! standing like a schlub with a belly hanging over a cock is never ever going to be attractive, neither is obviously sucking your stomach in to disguise the fact that your chest has slipped majorly. try lying down. or on your side. the spread leg thing either on your back or bend over from behind will have you viewed by every gay/bi guy on the site. you've been warned. THE DICK PHOTO I'm sure some women feel differently than this but unless you have a truly superior dick, be very careful about these shots. some NO-NO's: - so close that we can see hair follicles and pores - just the head, or barely sticking out from a thick thatch of hair - the underside of your dick. - Any photo that includes you doing ANYTHING to another woman. (if you have her, what do you need us for? it turns YOU on, it doesn't turn us on) - having 4-5 dick shots on your profile is also an overkill. Again, women are more creative romantic thinkers. not IN YOUR FACE. There is something to be said for a little mystery. a good pose. THE SEARCH So, you've found someone who interests you. PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR PROFILE. we say what we mean on it. if it states no guys under 30 and you're 24, DON'T WRITE. unless of course, you like rejection letters or not getting responses at all. if she says she's looking for women, DON'T WRITE. if she says she's looking for single guys and your married, DON'T WRITE. getting the picture here? regardless of how hot she is, RESPECT what she's looking for. if you've signed on with a standard membership and are sitting back wondering why women don't write, its because most women don't really browse men. women get so many emails they can for the most part, pick and choose. there are very few woman who actually have a paid memberships so cant initiate email contact. sorry, thats just the way it is. you need to be able to initiate contact with us! winking is fine, but if she cant email you, you're winking up a dead end. THE EMAIL now. first of all, BE POLITE! jeez. regardless of what sort of site this is, a little politeness goes a long way. very rarely will a "WANNA FUCK TONITE" email get responded to in the way you want. most women aren't sitting around with their legs spread waiting for the first dick wagged in their direction! You want to think of communicating via email like a ping pong game. The idea is to get the conversation flowing back and forth between the players. Open-ended questions are the types where the other person can answer with more than a yes or no. For example, "I see you enjoy bungee jumping. how long have you been doing that for? where's your favorite place to jump?"  closed ended questions only require yes or no for an answer and you've dropped the ball. conversation closed. You want to avoid them. Statements that dont require any sort of response are also best avoided. Don't send personal information in a first email. no phone numbers, no instant messengers, no regular email addresses. it comes across as being desperate which is in no way attractive to women. You also don't know if the woman who seems good on paper is actually a desperate stalker. If you get a decline of any form, move on graciously. calling her a slut or bitch or lesbian because she's not attracted to you only confirms that you weren't her type anyway. there are tons of fish in the sea. You men have so much competition you need to make yourselves stand out in a crowd and stand out to the women you're trying to attract. You MUST put forth the effort if you want success. It's very one sided, but that's how things are on here. yes this is a site to find sexual partners among other things. However, it is not your "right" to get laid once you get on the site. nor is it our "obligation" to spread legs to any guy who writes to us. Regardless of what sort of photo a woman has up DO NOT THINK FOR ONE MINUTE that this woman is a whore. you aren't going to be paying her anything. she'll only meet you if she's attracted to your photo, profile and messages. And she's better at advertising herself than you are because she put up what attracted YOU to her profile. (remember men=in your face women=creative romantic) WOMEN ALSO NEED TO FEEL A CERTAIN SENSE OF SAFETY WITH ANY MAN WE DECIDE TO MEET. just something to keep in mind. And we've come to the conclusion of how to be successful 101. Your homework is to revamp your profiles and take a better photo than the one you have up by next week. yes there will be a test. ok no there wont, but I do hope y'all have picked up enough to tweak your own profiles and have some success on this site. best of luck finding what you're looking for
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playtime4uxx

An interesting read Lili.

Well posted, I have only been on this site for a short while and have met (and by met I mean chatted to) a few nice people, one thing I find frustrating, is when people (and I am straight so I am referring to the women) put "looking for a play buddy, friend with benefits" and so on, but once you begin chatting with them, you find out they want a whole lot more??? This is a small annoyance, but an annoyance just the same. Any thoughts on this Lili? Are there people out there just looking for fun? Regards,
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kool_dude   Man 44yrs

Re:How To Be Successful On This Site- For Men

Wow Lili, You really took some time out to think about this. What you say is true but I really do think it comes down to women only wanting the best. Which is fair enough when you have so much to choose from. The reality is that it's pretty hard to even get a look in unless you look like like Brad Pitt. Personally I've given up looking on RHP and happy to read & reply to post likes this. Cheers.
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casava   Woman 33yrs

different interpretations.

playtime4uxx, It's always good to ask people what EXACTLY they mean by friends with benefits, fuck buddies, play friends, no strings attached, etc. To some people, those terms all mean the same thing and are interchangeable - to others, each one represents a different way of interacting with potential partners. Asking for clarification as soon as possible is also advisable. That way, you can possibly avoid disappointment later in the piece if/when you find out you both have different goals. ask them what their relationship boundaries are, what they're willing or not willing to do with you, . For example, person A just wants sex, this persons doesn't want any other interactions outside the bedroom or which ever place they happen to be fucking in, no calling/chatting/messaging unless it's to schedule a fuck, no talking about anything outside the context of sex, no socialising like dinner, movies etc. think of it like entering a business contract. of course, people being people might change their minds later on, and that's their prerogative. it's might not always be the case of them deceiving you. in that case, you can either re-negotiate or just leave. we all want fun, I doubt many people would be looking for a miserable or boring time, masochistic not included (even then a masochistic would be having fun being miserable in a twisted sort of way). however, not everyone has the same idea of what fun should be.
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casava   Woman 33yrs

who's looking for Mr. Pitt...?

kooldude, Actually, it was another lady who took the time to write that guide, I just cut and pasted here. I wish I did write it though. Perhaps you're trying to contact the Angelina Jolies of this site....? Physical attractiveness does play a pretty big part, however I don't believe everyone is that shallow that that's ALL they take into consideration...ok...well maybe a lot of people out there do, especially the ones looking for pieces of meat they can get THEIR rocks off on. So you're not the poster boy for a calvin klein underwear ad...then play up the qualities you do have. I don't think it's the fact that you don't look like Brad Pitt that's working against you, but the content or the lack thereof in your profile itself. I too have given up looking for anything from this site though for different reasons. I do like sticking around for the community forums. l.
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sexypaul5   Man 41yrs

your right

just wanted to say what a wonderful help you have been thank you take care god bless
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playtime4uxx

Good point.

I'm hearing you Lili, best to find out early, but I hate sounding rude by asking right away "what are you after/ looking for"?? But I might give it a try.... So Lili, what are YOU looking for ;) Take care
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casava   Woman 33yrs

looking for...

playtime4uxx, well i guess you don't have to go straight for the proverbial jugular when it comes to finding out the other's intentions, maybe just lead up to it pretty early on. what am I looking for...well it's changed over the years that I've been using sites such as these..... initially, it was to prove to myself that i can actually have sex without being traumatised by it (a long story, and not a particularly pleasant one). it was also convenient for me as I didn't have time to socialise since I was working full time and studying full time. Was I successful....yes...i did have a lot of sex, and no i didn't go into a catatonic shocked state or get hysterical. Did I enjoy it....no.  Why? Too complicated to explain. Once the initial purpose was satisfied, then it changed to seeing if I could find people to make a favourite fantasy a reality. That pretty much bombed out. Until recently, it has changed to finding people for a friends with benefits situation. people who i'm comfortable enough with to lose control, who i look forward to seeing, instead of being indifferent to whether I see them again or not. By friends with benefits, to me that means strings. it's impossible to be a true friend with someone without strings. otherwise, it's just a charade where you're going through the motions until something better comes along. it means i'd like whoever i'm sleeping with to be involved in more than one facet of my life and i in theirs. and no, it doesn't mean i want it to end up in marriage. frankly, i've yet to meet a man I'd want for keeps, and I strongly doubt I ever will (too independent, too fickle, too emotionally guarded, and basically too damn lazy to chase). Ok....this is turning to another essay.....and not a very interesting one at that. These days, I'm not looking for anything in regards to rhp other than an entertaining read . Hmmm...I should have put that at the start! By the way playtime4uxx, where did you have that seaside photo taken in your profile....it looks gorgeous!
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playtime4uxx

we could be friends ;)

I don't find your story uninteresting at all, I would like to hear more, obviosly in a more private setting. If you are interested in chatting with me further read my profile carefully and see if you can work out the hidden "message" if not I will try and make it more obvious. I hope to hear from you ;) Regards,
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lipsyyyyyy   Woman 42yrs

Thank You

Thanks Lili...I know that you got this info from another source but I found it to be very useful.  I think if all the males on here could read this (i know lol) there would be a lot more happier people on here!  As a woman on RHP, it has everything I have had a grievance with....Thanks Again.. Smiley xxx:)
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Mars_n_Venus

Suck sess full

As the male in Mars and Venus I met my Venus on another site like RHP. I had a single male profile up as did Venus. I think the go is be honest who you are and what you want. If you just want a quicky, according to the gals, looks like it will be solo unless you are very very2 lucky. If you want more then the truth will come out soon as you lose again if you stretch it. If you are after what I was after then that takes more work and a degree of luck. Plently of good pics in the general is a must and more ie face shots and yes....of course some hot pics in the PG as this is a sex lovers site. Take it as fast as you dare. And pay up as its expected that the guys pay now isnt it....hmmm.....we currently arent paid up but have been several times. I can see some of the gals arcking up right now lol....It not a mystery to me why there are more guys than gals but come on it cant be 10/1?  If so where do the other girls hang out I wonder? If I find out I will make a post...now how much is that info worth I wonder....hmmm. It seems to be same on all these sites. I could say more but this would not be in subject. Mars
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Blazza1

The difference between sex and dating

I've used dating sites and I've used sex sites, I've met a heap of women on dating sites, but none on sex sites.  Using the exact same methods of introduction in both situations, and also using a more direct, confident up front approach. I'm intelligent, I like to think of myself as at least a reasonable conversationalist and I'm not bad looking (feel free to disillusion me on that).  What am I doing wrong?
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casava   Woman 33yrs

whores R us

personally, i think this is a dating site....just the focus is on more down to earth matters. if you're interacting with another person, it is a kind of relationship, albeit in rhp case, usually a very brief one. here i feel more comfortable talking about my sexual preferences without freaking out anyone or giving anyone the wrong impression...how many of you dated someone only to find out you're completely incompatible in bed. while sex isn't the be and end all....i think it is one of the easier ways to forge an intimacy or bond between two people. while it is the modern age, and it is more permissible for a woman to be sexual/sensual...however, not everyone adheres to that open mindedness. sadly even here, a majority of men approach this site as a whore mart or a whores R us. that the women here are solely for their use, and like an object, shouldn't be allocated the same amount of respect to say...someone they met in a church group. i think basically that's what's working against you, the plethora of males before you who have just gone about things completely the wrong way, and now the women are wary. Yes, it is an adult site, but i've noticed very few act like one on here. a lot are like children that demand their treats now then throw a tantrum if they don't get their own way....or like to play games with unsuspecting people.
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ajdude_ru469   Man 47yrs

lil. wake up!

you said it all! however, your last post was a pipe dream this is fantasy, you can tease, grope have safe virtual sex with anyone here, but Meet!!!!! Not too often. Have met a few. and no doubt they will think same similar about me, "not what I thought" "different from Profile" bad luck thats life, and so is meeting someone, you wont know till that happens so I for one am happy, (although I am currently seeing someone so off books at present), just to meet and greet. use the system, be used by it! we can all be whoever we want in cyber world love all your posts aj
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casava   Woman 33yrs

your pipe dreams, my reality.

aj, basically people treat this site the way they like...if it's just a fantasy or a dream to them, then so be it, though it sucks completely for the people who get unwittingly caught up in other peoples fantasies. or if they want to treat this as an adult dating site, then fair enough. that's also their prerogative. i can't speak for anyone else, but personally for me, it's the latter. i wasn't here to cyber grope or have safe virtual sex, nor for the fantasy (though there was a fantasy that i would have liked to explore but the reality was just too difficult to organise). i was here to meet people, and meet people i did...I never saw the point in mis-representing myself since my goal was in meeting and doing that would just shoot myself in the foot...i'm not that stupid all the time, nor am i too much of a masochist! however, i have no control in how other people perceive me. but who does really...unless that particular audience member happens to be completely without a thought in their heads that they can't form their own opinions. it's also not the first time a persons desires cloud what the actual reality is...those of you who've had stalkers could probably attest to that. i'd like to think i'm pretty much the same offline as i am online (though I would admit i'm a lot crankier online than I am offline - too many internet dis inhibited dead beats tend to spoil ones good humour on occasions!)...at least i've been told so by the people i've met whenever the subject came up. but hey, that's just my say so...what am i to you all anyway other than a bunch of words on the screen...so take it or leave it as you will. yes to ME, this was dating site, since it's people i was having sex with, not just walking dildos. i'm not the kind of person who can divorce the orifice/body part from the person it's attached to...but the whole package where foreplay starts in the brain and definitely long before the clothes come off. that's not to say i was looking for the love of my life here, i'm too much of an emotional coward, love phobe and a control freak for that to ever happen. at least not till i can exorcise my demons. meanwhile, why not enjoy the mr. and miss "right nows".
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Blazza1

I know what you mean...

Yeah I see what you're saying.  I visited the chat rooms for a little bit, and it's like, 10 to 1 guys to girls (possibly a higher ratio than that).  Then some girl jumps on webcam and starts doing whatever it is she's doing, and every guy is like "quick! Do something to make myself stand out".  And so it ends up being a chat room full of guys making random compliments that really mean nothing to anyone...  Let's just say that I won't be visiting the chat rooms too often... Anyway, thanks for your words on the screen Lili.
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ranger101   Woman 42yrs

Whore-Mart is everywhere, not just on this site!!

That's why I don't like to chat in the rooms much these days.......kinda over all the game playing and innuendo.  Too many men only want to chat to those women on cam, unless of course they have sexy photos on their profile, they will usually be ignored.  Then there's your those who stick with who they know in the room and ignore the new ones who come in wanting to be friendly and get to know some.  Even msn is getting kinda boring to me now.  Call me old fashioned, but I prefer having a nice friendly chat over the phone these days! Just in reference to what Lily mentioned above about how this site is viewed upon as a kind've "Whore Mart" to a lot of men, I think it's not much different than the whore you see in church.  The only difference is, in church, they can get away with it, playing Christian, Catholic, whatever as it's their little secret.  At least with a site like this, it's out in the open, not kept hidden away, (excluding the person's deepest, darkest secrets) with the opportunity to talk openly about subjects that the church are embarrassed to address in their sermons. Most of the regular women I see chatting away in the rooms seem to me to be the "un-whorish" type, whereas viewing a woman exposing everything to anyone on cam without taking the time to chat to anyone in the room looks to be more whorish. 
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theredcat

Lily!

Wow...you are so spot on and I have loved your posts...you should be mandatory reading for everyman on this site!
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theredcat

and another thing

regarding photos....... photos of your car or motorbike should be shared with your mates...not women you're hoping to seduce
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j123easy

Thankyou

Just wanted to say thank you for posting this it is a big help
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casava   Woman 33yrs

a social experiment.

I decided to send this to every person who sent me a boring/canned message as part of the rejection letter....since i had received around 300 messages in a period of a week...I deemed it appropriate as well as time saving to do so. let's just say it didn't go down well at all. the vitriol i received....i think only my toenails would have been left...they did not take too kindly to unwanted advice at all... it's kind of fascinating to view a male ego in action... it's amazing how people think "hi how are you" as a well thought out message perfectly tailored to the person they're sending..or "hello, my name is... i like your profile...check out mine....if interested message back"....now multiply that by 300....it's very hard to be inspired to reciprocate an interest let alone want to take the time to read the profile. i can understand if someones profile is that minimal that you don't really know what to say to them. that would have been acceptable. i wouldn't know what to write to someone either who just says they're here for fun and have a gsoh....boring...

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